frontpage.
newsnewestaskshowjobs

Made with ♥ by @iamnishanth

Open Source @Github

fp.

Open in hackernews

2025 Was Another Exceptionally Hot Year

https://e360.yale.edu/digest/2025-second-hottest-year
33•Brajeshwar•2h ago

Comments

NooneAtAll3•1h ago
I wonder, if some countries are secretly conducting geoengineering - would it be detectable? would there be any hint different from "anomalous heating" we observe now?
witte•1h ago
It really depends on what you mean by geoengineering. Dumping things into the atmosphere has been easy to detect for a while now, but with NASA spinning down their space assets focused on climate data [1] there’s definitely dimensional data that’s being lost. However, there’s still plenty of data being supplied via the EU Copernicus team [2] to track a lot of those things that hopefully will be able to fill some of the gaps.

All of this to say, with enough stable overhead assets then most things can be detected that would cause possible impacts in climate.

1. https://www.npr.org/2025/08/04/nx-s1-5453731/nasa-carbon-dio...

2. https://dataspace.copernicus.eu/explore-data

gamerdonkey•1h ago
Basically every country has been conducting a massive geoengineering project in the open for the past decades by releasing billions of tonnes of CO2 (and other greenhouse gasses) into the atmosphere. We've been able to detect that, yes.
Sharlin•1h ago
It feels to me that every year breaking weather records is becoming, or has already become, the new normal. I can imagine people thinking "weather has always done that, big deal."
josefritzishere•1h ago
We are failing an open book test.
egberts1•1h ago
So, a clueless Luddite like me went and pulled the temperature reading database since 1903 and did the following:

- search for all United States - excluded all 14,200 US stations installed since 1973 - average/median them the rest

Trend? Largely flat.

Did I jump the gun?

Were excluded stations like number 80238 (Arcadia, FL) being installed near heat-producing objects (air conditioning condenser unit, nuclear cooling towers, new parking lots) the cause? A valid cause?

renewiltord•1h ago
The other thing is that people use the classic chart trick of not starting the Y axis from zero Kelvin (the only scientific scale). If you do that you see that even including all these stations the trend is imperceptible.
trehalose•57m ago
On that scale, the difference between normal human body temperature and dangerous hyperthermia is just about imperceptible too. Even the difference between summer and winter is pretty small. Dunno why we bother with heating and air conditioning and having two sets of clothing.
chaps•1h ago
Wait so, in response to an article about the current year being hot, you excluded the past 50 years and made a conclusion that things are flat. Am I missing something from your post?
renewiltord•1h ago
Not excluding the 50 years. Excluding stations installed then. Older stations still report. You have to tune the number right. If you choose 40 years it doesn’t work. So something must have happened in 1973.
polotics•59m ago
May i suggest you consult the website realclimate.org? this and many other classic denialist tropes are well addressed there. Thank You!
ctenb•53m ago
Care to paraphrase the relevant explanation?
rcxdude•53m ago
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/07/no-ma...

Basically, it's something that's taken into account. The two main ways are calibrating urban stations relative to nearby rural stations, and by looking at the variation between windy and calm days, since the effects are larger on calm days (so if things are corrected well, there shouldn't be a difference)

polotics•32m ago
Please no, because this would be feeding the sea lions.
rcxdude•58m ago
It's not something that climatologists and meteorologists are unaware of. Even for longer-running weather stations you can get a heat island effect if they're in a city and it's built up over time. So while I can't say exactly why you got the result you did with this specific query and dataset it is something that is taken into account when analyzing this kind of data.
sam_lowry_•36m ago
Show me the source, Luke!
gamerdonkey•32m ago
I have many questions about your methodology:

- How many stations were you left with?

- Did that number decline over time (as you excluded replacement stations)?

- What was your scale?

- Are you willing to share your results?

- How is this still the top comment after 30 minutes?

But your comment touches on a common misconception, which is that heat islands must be excluded to accurately measure the overall temperature. You refer to the idea as "heat-producing objects", but I would argue that a parking lot is more of a heat reflecting object. More to the point, even heat islands must be considered as part of the worldwide climate, simply because they are part of this wide world. Their heat does not simply disappear (I hope you agree that would violate physics).

Imagine we want to measure the average temperature inside a single 30-foot by 10-foot room during winter. We have two probes: one near a burning fireplace on one end of the room, and one near a window on the other. If we excluded data from one probe or the other, do you believe we would get an accurate average reading?

Of course, when scientists are calculating a global temperature, they have to handle special cases in the data (like heat islands). This has been known for some time, and you can read more about it here: https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/07/no-ma...

I fear that I've spent too much time responding to this, but I wanted to take it on in earnest.

renewiltord•1h ago
Most of the top environmental organizations agree that we should not build nuclear plants. Many also oppose solar and wind. It’s important to remember this so that we don’t react in a knee-jerk fashion and try to build so-called “green energy”.
trehalose•48m ago
We can't only be concerned about the environment. We've got to maintain a healthy economy too. Building out expensive coal and natural gas just because some environmentalists demand it is an inefficient use of funds and a drain on taxpayers and electricity bill payers. Solar and wind might not make you feel good, but the economy doesn't run on feelings.
sfn42•1h ago
Of course warming is accelerating. Emissions are accelerating and the second and third order effects of ice cap loss, thawing permafrost etc are setting in on top.

We have known about this for a century at this point and it's still being presented like a surprise. It's not a surprise. It's exactly what anyone who's paid attention has been expecting for decades.

Over a decade ago I decided not to have kids because I don't think they will have a world worth inheriting. I've mostly stopped following these kinds of news because it's depressing but it's not at all surprising.

They've been telling us this would happen for my entire life, and everyone has been sticking their heads in the sand thinking it'll be fine for the next few hundred years and looking at me like I'm a lunatic when I tell them it's happening during our lifetimes.

Show HN: I got tired of Googling in thrift stores, so I built an AI pricing tool

https://underpricedai.com
1•fkratzer•1m ago•0 comments

Show HN: A tiny CLI to find broken CloudWatch alarms

https://github.com/wrybakiewicz/cw-alarm-audit
1•wrybakiewicz•4m ago•0 comments

The Origin of Rot

https://www.owlposting.com/p/the-origin-of-rot
1•abhishaike•4m ago•0 comments

How to Get Startup Ideas (2012)

https://paulgraham.com/startupideas.html
1•_helporme•5m ago•0 comments

The great programming transformation: How AI and Rust are quietly dethroning C

https://www.zdnet.com/article/programming-transformation-ai-rust-c-linux-windows/
2•CrankyBear•5m ago•0 comments

Am I slop? Analyze the perplexity of your thoughts

https://www.amislop.com/
1•joelS•6m ago•0 comments

A Billionaire Wants to Reinvent Appalachia with a Utopian City

https://appalachianmemories.org/2025/12/30/a-billionaire-wants-to-reinvent-appalachia-with-a-utop...
1•ericmay•8m ago•0 comments

Flow Is a Property of the System and the Individual

https://russmiles.substack.com/p/flow-is-a-property-of-the-system
2•saikatsg•8m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Mail Wizard Pro – New Gizzapp email scraper released

https://gizzapp.com/buymailwizpro/
1•johnboygiz•9m ago•0 comments

Apple's AI Strategy Could Pay Off in 2026

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/12/30/apple-ai-strategy-could-pay-off-in-2026/
1•antipaul•11m ago•0 comments

We lost the habit of sleeping in two segments and that changed our sense of time

https://english.elpais.com/health/2025-12-24/why-we-lost-the-habit-of-sleeping-in-two-segments-an...
1•pilingual•12m ago•0 comments

Show HN: A Multi-agent system where LLMs challenge each other's answers

1•AlphaSean•12m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: What is the last book you're finishing in 2025?

1•chistev•13m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Tidy- A minimal directory organizer I built to clean my downloads

https://github.com/its-me-abhishek/tidy
1•supbruhhh•14m ago•0 comments

Show HN: My Best Sport – Match your body dimensions to sports with AI

1•dylanlacom•14m ago•0 comments

Solar Slidewheel for Celestial Navigation

https://trmm.net/sunwheel/
1•terinjokes•14m ago•0 comments

Tool Design Patterns for Agents

https://fred.glass/tool-design/
2•hcsfred•16m ago•0 comments

Did Starmer Impose a Curfew in the U.K.? No, It's a Fake TikTok Video

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/30/world/europe/starmer-uk-tiktok-fake-news.html
1•doener•18m ago•0 comments

AI showing signs of self-preservation and humans should be ready to pull plug

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/dec/30/ai-pull-plug-pioneer-technology-rights
2•andsoitis•19m ago•1 comments

Money struggle is unhealed trauma

https://mibetterelli.substack.com/p/your-money-struggle-is-unhealed-trauma
1•rafaepta•20m ago•0 comments

Alternative sweetener sorbitol linked to liver disease

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-11-alternative-sweetener-sorbitol-linked-liver.html
2•PaulHoule•23m ago•0 comments

Motorized aim assist system uses a moving mousepad for laser-accurate headshots

https://www.tomshardware.com/maker-stem/microcontrollers-projects/motorized-mousepad-aim-assist-s...
2•Tomte•24m ago•0 comments

US approves Samsung, SK Hynix chipmaking tool shipments to China

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/samsung-wins-us-annual-approval-chipmaking-tool-shipments-chi...
2•newusertoday•24m ago•0 comments

The Oil Company Drilled. The Government Slaughtered. Who Is Guilty?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/30/opinion/the-oil-company-drilled-government-slaughter-guilty.html
1•mitchbob•26m ago•1 comments

Iran's currency collapse sparks second day of trader protests

https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/12/29/irans-currency-collapse-sparks-second-day-of-trader-...
2•wslh•26m ago•0 comments

Note67 – Local-first AI meeting transcription and notes macOS app

https://note67.com
1•ctmakestuff•27m ago•1 comments

Sova Study the friendly AI learning companion

https://www.sovastudy.com
1•ashnomad•27m ago•1 comments

Show HN: Open-source macOS app to install and manage MCPs

https://www.josh.ing/mymcp
1•jshchnz•27m ago•0 comments

The Star Gauge is a 4th-century Chinese poem that can be read 3k ways

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Gauge
4•bane•27m ago•1 comments

A Vulnerability in Libsodium

https://00f.net/2025/12/30/libsodium-vulnerability/
2•raggi•29m ago•0 comments