> Ross, still filming with one hand, appears nearly fully clear of the SUV’s front path when he says “whoa” and shoots three times in rapid succession.
The author chooses to omit that when the SUV he was "nearly fully clear of" sped away, he was in fact hit by it, though it was a grazing hit (the video is short, I encourage you to watch it and make up your own mind). Other than the verbal exchange, the video doesn't really show anything new - it was about what I expected to see, based on the other videos. It's clear she wasn't aiming for him, but also clear she was driving recklessly towards pedestrians (to be precise - a single pedestrian, the ICE agent in question). And while we can watch videos from 3 different perspectives over and over again and debate, the ICE agent had 1 second or less to decide how to act, when the car started speeding towards him (but with the tires turned)
In my opinion he should have just jumped away. That kind of shooting should be saved for when there are others at risk, or one has other reasons to believe the driver is a deadly threat to others. But let's not pretend this was a cold-blooded execution either.
mekdoonggi•4w ago
This person was trained extensively. If most human beings would not assume that the driver was trying to attack the agent, why should a trained agent not be held to a higher standard.
The safety of the citizens should be paramount. If this is how similar situations will be adjudicated in the future, it will give ICE tyrannical control of the lives of US citizens.
like_any_other•4w ago
> This person was trained extensively.
Has that been established? Perhaps you have more faith in US police than I.
> If most human beings would not assume that the driver was trying to attack the agent
If you mean most human beings if in the agents place, then this has definitely not been established. And this particular agent was dragged by a car just a few months prior [1], so it's likely he was too trigger happy as a result.
I do agree he has no business with a gun and badge, and there should probably be some criminal charges involved, but all in all it looks like an overreaction, not a cold-blooded execution as some try to frame it, and not much different than the many other borderline police shootings that happen every year. Their number can be reduced, but not eliminated. And contrary to popular belief, ranked by number of police killings per homicide, the US is comparable to most countries.
> The safety of the citizens should be paramount.
If you google for "killed by immigrant" [2], it's not at all clear that disregarding immigration law and leaving borders open doesn't harm citizen safety.
like_any_other•4w ago
> Ross, still filming with one hand, appears nearly fully clear of the SUV’s front path when he says “whoa” and shoots three times in rapid succession.
The author chooses to omit that when the SUV he was "nearly fully clear of" sped away, he was in fact hit by it, though it was a grazing hit (the video is short, I encourage you to watch it and make up your own mind). Other than the verbal exchange, the video doesn't really show anything new - it was about what I expected to see, based on the other videos. It's clear she wasn't aiming for him, but also clear she was driving recklessly towards pedestrians (to be precise - a single pedestrian, the ICE agent in question). And while we can watch videos from 3 different perspectives over and over again and debate, the ICE agent had 1 second or less to decide how to act, when the car started speeding towards him (but with the tires turned)
In my opinion he should have just jumped away. That kind of shooting should be saved for when there are others at risk, or one has other reasons to believe the driver is a deadly threat to others. But let's not pretend this was a cold-blooded execution either.
mekdoonggi•4w ago
The safety of the citizens should be paramount. If this is how similar situations will be adjudicated in the future, it will give ICE tyrannical control of the lives of US citizens.
like_any_other•4w ago
Has that been established? Perhaps you have more faith in US police than I.
> If most human beings would not assume that the driver was trying to attack the agent
If you mean most human beings if in the agents place, then this has definitely not been established. And this particular agent was dragged by a car just a few months prior [1], so it's likely he was too trigger happy as a result.
I do agree he has no business with a gun and badge, and there should probably be some criminal charges involved, but all in all it looks like an overreaction, not a cold-blooded execution as some try to frame it, and not much different than the many other borderline police shootings that happen every year. Their number can be reduced, but not eliminated. And contrary to popular belief, ranked by number of police killings per homicide, the US is comparable to most countries.
> The safety of the citizens should be paramount.
If you google for "killed by immigrant" [2], it's not at all clear that disregarding immigration law and leaving borders open doesn't harm citizen safety.
[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/01/08/ice-jo...
[2] I've kindly assembled a few examples (among others), in case Google decides to only return "immigrant killed by" results: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46558388
cosmicgadget•4w ago
They're no less culpable but I don't get the impression they are "trained extensively".
immibis•3w ago