The second is the most similar to the company in the video, but the first is a much more established company. If none of these can do what you need, I suggest looking around the large manufacturing cities, so sheffield/derby/birmingham where there are still lots of small bespoke workshops that service large companies like forgemaster, rolls royce and JLR etc....
Previously ran an mp3 scraper recording 30 stations simultaneously
Good exposure to more music
Its 60drives and mostly bulletproof. Downside is that you'll either need SAS controller on your server, or find the vanishingly rare Sata controllers.
JBOD that badboy into ZFS and you'll have something fast enough for most things (streaming)
How we used them was hardware raid 7 in 4 groups of 13 with the rest as hot spares. LVM raid 0 and good to go (this was a time before production ZFS on linux)
I'm not sure what the compatibility is with larger sata drives given how old it is. I suspect you might be limited to JBOD.
I have a ZFS JBOD supporting a 40ish machine cluster, and it works really well, 99.99% of the time, which is good enough.
Mine is not very dense. 150TB/box.
When you look at them, they really don't have the same style as netapp did at the time.
(or i'm wrong and senile.)
https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-storage/resources/storage-po...
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/open-source-data-storage-serv...
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Archival of the memes
OrvalWintermute•3w ago
High quality vid!
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willtemperley•3w ago
Now I just have to find a way to avoid the $50k egress cost from AWS.
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bayindirh•3w ago
A close friend of mine runs a single beefy server at home, which is currently ~35% of his monthly bill if I'm not making mental-math mistakes.
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bayindirh•3w ago
I'm not a stranger to expensive hobbies. I have at least a couple of them. Photography and high end stationery being two of them.
PeterStuer•3w ago
Cost will depend on your electricity contract, but will propbably not be a thing that would stop you if you want to do this.
bayindirh•3w ago
I have seen a couple of guys who acquired older generation storage "racks" which they "play with" in the weekends. Do they have the cooling? No. Does it affect their electricity bill? Very. But they want to learn that thing and want to play with it, which is understandable, as long as it's kept checked.
Not different from audiophiles who lose their way, actually.
I was a wannabe data-hoarder by accident, but I understood why I'm doing and decided to slim down drastically. I'm merging, deduplicating and deleting data step by step, because many of it is my own files from the days of yore, and I want to preserve some of them. To be frank, at this very moment I'm verifying that I have copied a bunch of files without corruption, so I can start working on them (sha256deep is an underappreciated tool).
Some of the datahoarders give me weird looks when I say, I'd rather have a single NUC with a couple of spinning drives for backing up what I care rather than having them all in a cabinet full of RAID arrays, but I already have them at work. I don't want another server at home (not because that I don't enjoy it, but I want to have some time touching actual grass).
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bayindirh•3w ago
On the ROI part, this is a case by case issue. I for one can do the "play" part at work, too. Also, I don't want to spare space for a 1U or 2U full-depth server at home. I'm not even adding disk boxes to this. I neither have the space, nor the desire.
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overfeed•3w ago
The point is the satisfaction you get in return of effort you put in, and perhaps kudos from like-minded folk when you execute particularly well.
bayindirh•3w ago
Recently I have watched a couple of Venus Theory's [0] videos. In one of them he asked the question why you're doing the thing you're doing, questioning the intention of creation. Is it self-satisfaction, or validation, he asks. I'm personally on the former camp. I used to share what I do for just putting it out, and adding a couple of pointers to it. If anyone commented on it, it's great (hint: nobody ever did). Otherwise I don't care. Having no feedback doesn't stop me, because I do what I do, enjoy the process and just put it out there (now less so because of the AI crawlers, alas).
While I like working/playing with computers, I have other hobbies, too, and I find them equally rewarding, and I don't care about their costs.
I also do not belittle the people who buy racks of hardware for their home. If I was not at the point I am currently, I'd probably do it, too. I'm just lucky to have access to it already, not needing these screeching hot banshees at home. Trying to scale down into a pragmatic minimalism also is both a result and reason of swimming in cables and big equipment in a small space when I was a teenager.
So, I got enough of these things at home, and I prefer to use them at their natural habitat. That's all.
[0]: https://www.youtube.com/@VenusTheory/videos
traceroute66•3w ago
If you are using enterprise SSDs the you need to be aware that the JDEC standards[1] are such that the assumption for enterprise SSDs is that they are operating 24/7.
Which is why, for example, the standards specify "power off data retention" of 3 months for enterprise SSDs vs 1 year for client SSDs.
And conversely, for reliability, the standards specify "active use" 24/7 for enterprise vs 8 hours/day for client SSDs.
Like many things with ID, the choice of client vs enterprise SSDs is a 'pick two' scenario.
[1]https://files.futurememorystorage.com/proceedings/2011/20110...
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overfeed•3w ago
Aren't all collecting hobbies like this? Stamps, music on vinyl, movie posters, retro computers, cars, etc all have very little additional utility for size > n.
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bayindirh•3w ago
Needing Debian 8 because that Lights Out connection requires JVM-something for the Java Web Start based console of the system.
Moreover, funnily, some newer servers work wonkier with more modern ipmitools and browser versions while connecting remotely. Intricacies of older embedded systems.
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cookiengineer•3w ago
If google decides to shove AI generated results up our throats, that's the reasonable alternative.
Currently I am building zimdex, as an alternative to the zim tools.
Also if that's your thing, check out the kiwix.org project. It's really nice.
bayindirh•3w ago