People have ragged on Windows going back for as long as I can remember. Only in hindsight did people ever express fondness in public for Windows XP (and maybe a bit for Windows 7). It's hard for me to distinguish how much of the vitriol is legitimate this time from developers, or will nostalgia glasses just haunt Windows forever.
I've been using Windows 11 and... it feels fine? If anything, it doesn't feel substantially different enough from Windows 10 to care. My other comparison points are a Macbook and a Steam Deck, and both of them have so many faults of their own that I don't understand the need to rag on Windows in particular.
I certainly have some anti-fondness memories as well (I had the service pack burned to a CD because it took longer to download and install the updates than it did to get infected with one of the various worms around at the time), but there was zero doubt in my mind that XP was the best windows yet when it came out.
This was the "Release name" for every NT version. RCs were alpha quality, SP1 was the first beta, with SP2 things started to be ok. This was true until 7, then the Gates of hell opened and Windows is now an eternal "release" ( the thing between RC and SP1).
Xp sp2.
I still weidly remember this somehow after decades.
Consistent interfaces. UI speed. Lack of telemetry/ads.
I don't agree. Those of us using it for embedded development skipped from XP to 7 to 10.
Windows XP started off a bit rough. Once it had some time to mature, nobody in their right mind wanted to go back to Windows 95/98/9x, though.
Windows 7 was definitely lauded as decent contemporaneously. Vista was a disaster by comparison (but a necessary one--Vista took the arrows to allow Windows 7 to appear). And lot of people avoided Windows 8 like the plague it was.
Windows 10 was definitely a step back from 7, but wasn't ... terrible? Especially relative to Windows 8. But Windows 10 definitely wasn't genuinely good on any axis. And everybody was constantly bitching about all the stuff that was clearly the beginning of enshittification that got turned to maximum on 11.
What is happening now is even the longtime Windows power users and defenders are throwing up their hands and giving up. This is very different than the people running Gentoo in the 2000’s badmouthing Micro$oft on Slashdot
It totally has abusive relationship vibes. It's like they are being captured by convenience, learning something new being too much of an asshle to them.
They also like to take jabs at me for using Linux, but then their jaws drop when I transfer a file to a server in one second using `scp` while it takes them about 20 clicks with their windows GUI...
There are plenty of things that Windows 11 does well, but for me they’re all things that 10 also did well.
Most of the things that annoy me in 11 however were not also in 10.
Again, some of these are on 10, but on 11 it feels like more of a tighter package.
I'm not obsessed with windows 11, but I am the happiest using it than I've been with any other version (aside from the TPM 2.0 requirement, that's my #1 complaint)
YMMV
> not obsessed with windows 11, but I am the happiest using it
Good luck then. And, I really hope, you will remain happy in the future.
I’m a Mac person but Windows 11 seemed as fine as Windows 10 when I used it.
There is no support for Windows. At least for the mere mortals. Bugs are not acknoledged for months and then they might be, silently, fixed.
It was miles ahead of XP from an architecture standpoint, Aero looks positively futuristic today, security was improved, file transfers improved.
It was rock solid and good to look at. I used Vista right up until EOL.
You mean XP SP2 ?
Getting advanced drivers on XP was often an absolute nightmare.
It's insane the amount of bullshit Microsoft is pushing on private users.
Ironic, given their website showed me two unrequested popups.
Tricky to thread the needle on what would/not be allowed, but the pattern has been abused long enough. Maybe even saying it cannot re-ask for 30 days would be a significant improvement.
I work on different application and are pretty much forced to setup a specific Linux VM for each one to not have package dependency problems.
I never had that problem developing on Windows.
rolph•3w ago
it really would be nice for early emancipators to have a comfortable landing, and avoid being subject to collateral damage.
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rolph•3w ago
im thinking it doesnt have to work "on linux" it has to allow gaming on a linux kernal.
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Grisu_FTP•3w ago
Why would i want to launch a seperate launcher to launch my games?
epakai•3w ago
It can run things with regular wine or proton installed by steam. There is a lot of complexity compared to Steam or the GOG client.