Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

33•messh•1h ago

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Liftyee•1h ago

This looks quite similar to exe.dev which was on here a while ago - anyone know how it compares?

indigodaddy•1h ago

Pretty sure shellbox.dev has been around for at least 2-3 years though - EDIT nm they have a show HN from two days ago. I must be thinking of a similarly named/sounding service

messh•51m ago

Maybe you mean keypub.sh? That is another project of mine with similar graphic design.

messh•45m ago

I think exe.dev is subscription. In Shellbox.dev you have funds and pay very little when not connected

Egor3f•1h ago

$36/mo for 2/4/50 VPS without public IP... Ok, I get the idea that the service is for non-regular use, but I think even $0.005 per hour ($3.6/mo) of suspended state is too expensive. The same config in Hetzner is just $4.09/mo for 24/7 working VPS with public IPv4 address

messh•53m ago

Hi, That is a good point actually. The suspended price has to be significantly lower than the alternative. I'll revise it.

Still, there is the advantage of simplicity not having to deal with the web console etc. Some people may enjoy this

nine_k•25m ago

The interesting part here is that the box is stateful, unlike a Lambda. You return literally to the point where you left off.

einsteinx2•10m ago

Yeah this is a cool idea but the pricing is way too high. For anything I would use this for I could just set up any VPS from any provider for cheaper and it’s stateful in the sense that it’s my own VPS and my files/applications/tmux sessions/whatever will be there the next time I SSH in.

The UX here seems really nice, but after spending a couple minutes setting up the VPS, I essentially get the same UX (aka just ssh in and so stuff).

I’d potentially be willing to pay some premium over a standard VPS, but certainly not a 10x premium…honestly probably not even 2x.

eptcyka•2m ago

Have fun racing to the bottom. If I can get an unsuspended VM at 5$ a month, the suspendable one has to be significantly faster or significantly cheaper. Then again, take my gnawing with a boulder of salt for I will not be a customer. I have my own server that is running 24/7 already.

nine_k•28m ago

Interesting to compare with Fly's sprites: https://sprites.dev/#billing

messh•26m ago

One difference other than price is that sprites doesn't seem to use ssh

nine_k•21m ago

Also, they cost less than a shellbox when unused (idle), and more when used.

blackqueeriroh•9m ago

You can use ssh with a sprite.

Imustaskforhelp•23m ago

This is fascinating idea. I created an idea like this on top of firecracker and custom golang ssh client to build something like this for my own personal use case (the abstraction part of pricing and how to connect it seemed the more difficult part for me atleast)

What stack does this use underneath?

Good luck with launch, this idea is similar to railway in terms of pricing model. I discussed about it a few comments back and I think its an interesting idea and we are seeing alternatives within such pricing model

Also are you using some cloud provider itself or building it yourself, I'd be interested in so many details to discover

Have a nice day and looking forward to ya response! Good luck with your project!

messh•16m ago

Hi thanks for the interest!

This is all written in python and the AsyncSSH package. Firecracker for VMs with memory mapped files for ram. Paddle for billing. Caddy as a reverse proxy for certificates.

It works on top of very large bare metal instances.

I'm thinking maybe open sourcing but it will take some more work on the code to make it publishable w/o embarrassing myself :)

yjftsjthsd-h•17m ago

> Note: The -O flag is required for OpenSSH 9.0+ to use legacy SCP protocol.

Why isn't SFTP supported?

messh•15m ago

WIP, this is still in MVP phase...

mnsc•15m ago

Is it non-American all the way down?

messh•13m ago

I was born in Argentina, so technically American, yes ;)

messh•12m ago

If it is successful then the next region would be in the US

gvldev•1m ago

I've been trying to come up with a hypothetical use case for this. I can't use this as a server without keeping an active session right? I wonder if you could get around this by sshing into itself from inside the primary session. Is that an edge case you've considered?

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