So the judge ruled the original detention unconstitutional, and then they asked him to “check in” as a deceptive ruse to detain him again? The idea being this time it is constitutional?

Fully agreed. This is a violation of the spirit of the law and will make everyone view law enforcement agents as untrustworthy protectors of our Constitution.

But who holds them accountable? The DOJ right? Is that who can pursue a case against government officials violating constitutional rights? If so, it’s not enough. We need a rethink of checks and balances. This was clear even after the first Trump administration but we’re well past that now, and in this first year the second Trump administration has conducted a lot more violations.

The promise made was that they were going after "bad people", e.g., murderers, rapists, etc. I don't think many people have a problem with that.

But that's not who they're going after, it's everybody, with a focus on ethnic cleansing. It is no longer hyperbole to compare what's happening now to Germany in the 1930's.

Given the administration is openly talking about not having elections, I am not sure it can. I am guessing all this chatter about the insurrection act is itself a cover to not have midterms. Will that be enough to spark mass protests and general strikes? I am not sure. I genuinely think the ability for massively violating acts to be normalized quickly is unprecedented. Anything is possible.

I do not think it will. The Democratic Party is not an opposition party in its current form. The GOP will likely hold on to power in a fashion consistent with historical authoritarian takeovers.

This is guaranteed to blow up international trade with the US and one thing is for damn sure - that will silicon valley suffer enormously. It does not make sense.

It’s absolutely an effort to suppress criticism and/or try to deny the now undeniable by some HN users

Unfortunately lot of pedophile protectors.

Because the people who comment in these threads tend to be mind-killed by politics, and it serves very little purpose to have a threads full of such opinions.

I'm flagging because early on these obvious alerting news got flagged within seconds, while the equally political happenings, the less immigration-related thus somehow more relevant and appropriate ones, were tolerated.

I have since decided that this site does not deserve to know.

The people running YC and their entire social circle voted for this. Half of them are still riding the grift. Now they are all practicing for their Persilschein.

I think I can understand why someone from Europe or wherever else might flag these stories because they're not interested (...ignoring the whole Greenland elephant in the room for a second), but given that Scott Adams got a massive post on here despite the thread being mostly political shitflinging for obvious reasons it's really lowering my overall opinion of your average HN user. I'm increasingly inclined to say they need to show some information on who's flagging and why, especially if there's a consistent pattern and time of who is doing said flagging.

Some of the posts break thru the wave of people seemingly flagging these stories immediately like the Palantir stories but otherwise your best bet is having show dead on and looking in /Active instead.

I can only speak for myself. If the news article has anything to do with tech and things "interesting to hackers", I upvote. For example, the article about Palantir and ICE yesterday [1]. But articles like this one have nothing interesting to me. There are plenty of other places to discuss this like BlueSky, X, reddit, Facebook, etc. I beg you to please spare this last interesting forum.

Also it pisses me off how nobody talks about certain very relevant elephants in the room on these discussions. And it's more like venting and coping. Nobody will change their minds. Nothing will be done. Nothing is learned.

Note: I am not American.

[1] "The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46633378 622 points and 886 comments