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OpenAI could reportedly run out of cash by mid-2027

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/big-tech/openai-could-reportedly-run-out-of-cash-by-mid-2027-nyt-analyst-paints-grim-picture-after-examining-companys-finances
55•thenaturalist•1h ago

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iamspoilt•1h ago
Question: Why aren't we seeing similar reports for Anthropic?
__loam•1h ago
Lower profile and they're not making as many crazy deals but they're also losing incredible amounts of money.
DoctorOW•1h ago
I read somewhere (404 media? ) that they spent more on AWS than they got in revenue for 2025.
nuclearpidgeon•3m ago
After getting $8bn in investment from Amazon... (as of nov 2024)
thenaturalist•57m ago
https://old.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1qf6z4v/anthropic_3...
piskov•43m ago
Amazon can buy them when it is time
barishnamazov•1h ago
I'm gonna silently hope that this means we'll suddenly have extremely cheap GPU and RAM selling out in 2027. Hardware prices have gotten out of hand.
captain_coffee•1h ago
I don't know why I am expecting that to happen earlier with the rate they are burning throgh the dollars by the billions...
OsrsNeedsf2P•1h ago
What a useless article. OpenAI will obviously do many things before "running out of cash" -

1/ Implement more aggressive advertising 2/ Stop training new models 3/ Raise more funding

3eb7988a1663•1h ago
4) Sell all of those RAM chips they bought
viraptor•1h ago
They can't... not in an affordable way anyway. Those are integrated into other hardware they have. They don't buy the ram sticks others can use.
CamperBob2•59m ago
The RAM doesn't exist. What they bought were RAM futures.
trollbridge•45m ago
You can sell this, although the value would plummet if they did.
dcre•1h ago
And it’s just a restatement of the original, which isn’t any good either. Really mediocre.
Esophagus4•1h ago
That wasn't the conclusion of the article (I'm assuming you're reacting to the headline and haven't read the article).

The author's prediction is that OpenAI will get bought.

I know it sounds kind of crazy, but there actually is precedent for that: Reid Hoffman sold his AI startup after he realized there was no possible way for an AI startup to compete with the Googles of the world with $100B in cash and giant free cash flow machines given how capital intensive it is to build AI.[1]

To me, it's not that outlandish to think that if OpenAI really does need to spend a ton of money to survive, they will probably have to either raise or get bought (or find that magic money tree by monetizing their business). Because right now, they don't have the cash flow to compete with Google.

Could obviously change, but I think that's where the author is coming from.

[1]https://www.eesel.ai/blog/inflection-ai

emp17344•42m ago
Advertising doesn’t mean free money. Aggressive advertising will almost certainly drive away users.
Esophagus4•1h ago
Primary source: https://archive.is/Pf1M6
wmf•1h ago
Original link: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/13/opinion/openai-ai-bubble-...

This is pretty normal for a fast-growing startup, although OpenAI may be the largest to ever do it.

dvt•1h ago
The AI doom and gloom is so weird, and it's just turning into a bizarre echo chamber. AI is orders of magnitude more useful and transformative than Facebook was in 2005, and Meta is now one of the most valuable companies on the planet. Even if OpenAI has a down round or defaults on some loans, the technology has already proven to have dozens upon dozens of practical applications.
ben_w•57m ago
"Useful and transformative" doesn't mean "financially successful".

A single LLM provider might have been able to get great margins and capture a significant fraction of the total economic output of (currently e.g. junior grade software engineering), but collectively they're in an all-pay auction for the hardware to train models worth paying for, and at the same on questionable margins because they need to compete with each other on cost.

They can all go bankrupt, and leave behind only trained models that normal people won't be able to run for 5 years while consumer-grade stuff catches up. Or any single one of them might win, which may not be OpenAI. Any or all may get state subsidies (US, Chinese, European, whatever).

All kinds of outcomes are possible.

versteegen•32m ago
Paid/API LLM inference is profitable, though. For example, DeepSeek R1 had "a cost profit margin of 545%" [1] (ignoring free users and using a placeholder $2/hour figure H800 GPU, which seems ballpark of real to me due to Chinese electricity subsidies). Dario has said each Anthropic model is profitable over its lifetime. (And looking at ccusage stats and thinking Anthropic is losing thousands per Claude Code user is nonsense, API prices aren't their real costs. That's why opencode gives free access to GLM 4.7 and other models: it was far cheaper than they expected due to the excellent cache hit rates.) If anyone ran out of money they would stop spending on experiments/research and training runs and be profitable... until their models were obsolete. But it's impossible for everyone to go bankrupt.

[1] https://github.com/deepseek-ai/open-infra-index/blob/main/20...

ares623•11m ago
I don’t think the current industry can survive without both frontier training and inference.

Getting rid of frontier training will mean open source models will very quickly catch up. The great houses of AI need to continue training or die.

In any case, best of luck (not) to the first house to do so!

jazzyjackson•39m ago
Disagree, no one's going to invite me to their kids birthday party via ChatGPT. It's innovation was in ads knowing so much about the people it targeted, and putting tracking pixels on every webpage with a Like button. Facebook was transformative for online surveillance

IMO LLMs will be equally transformative for online influence campaigns (aka ads + Cambridge analytica on steroids)

Bolwin•24m ago
People are definitely going to be sending you AI generated birthday invite posters soon.

Oh and yeah, AI has already been shown to be more persuasive than the average human. It's only a matter of time before someone's paying to decide what it persuades you of

nuclearpidgeon•9m ago
If only there were some way to avoid this persuasion by, I don't know, not using or relying on such controlled technology, or by not buying in to the hype of all the companies with vested interests in selling it
matthewfcarlson•17m ago
Agreed, just because something is useful for helpful doesn’t mean it’s easy to monetize.
tootie•14m ago
They're not arguing that AI sucks. Only that OpenAI has no hope of meeting it's financial obligations which seems pretty reasonable. And very on brand for Sam Altman. It seems pretty obvious at this point that model training is extremely expensive and affords very little moat. LLMs will continue to improve and gain adoption, but one or more companies will fall by the wayside regardless of their userbase. Google seems pretty clearly to be in pole position at this point as they have massive revenue, data, expertise and their own chips.
ossa-ma•1h ago
Where is the actual financial modelling? This is pure speculation?

I understand being bearish and frightened of AI but this accounts for absolutely NOTHING, and especially doesn't include any projections on potential ad revenue which is likely going to be huge given their DAU and what you can extrapolate their ARPU to be based on other big tech advertisers.

trollbridge•46m ago
As the article pointed out, there is no moat. There’s no reason to think they’ll be more successful with ads than MySpace was versus Facebook.
elorant•46m ago
How do we know that ad revenue will be huge? 80% of the questions that I ask can't be monetized because they're not about purchase intent. And even if they could, has OpenAI built an auction system to bid on keywords? How exactly will all this work and be streamlined in the next 18 months to the point that it could generate the revenue they need to keep with the ridiculous investment requirements in infrastructure?
eek2121•34m ago
It honestly doesn't matter.

Sometimes these "articles" are sent out as thinly veiled "press releases" prior to an new round of investment. Sometimes someone who thinks they are a "reporter" has what they think is an "exclusive" or a "hot take". Regardless, as someone who has spent all of his career in startups...this is...business as usual. Another round of funding/financing will commence. Open AI will be fine unless investors lose confidence in AI. We won't know how it will play out until it plays out. Media outlets reporting on this are playing off the AI bubble hype for clicks. (Yes, we are in a bubble. No, nobody knows when it will pop, nor how bad it will be, ad driven company just wants more ad revenue, nothing to see here, move along.)

jcranmer•18m ago
From what I understand of the advertising market, companies like Google and Facebook make bucketloads of ads primarily because they own so much of the vertical integration of ad markets. Meanwhile, the way OpenAI appears to be integrating ads makes it seem to me that they're positioned only to take the smallest slice of the pie--a place to hoist ads--which means they're revenue-per-user I would estimate to be a lot closer to, say, a newspaper website than the biggest of social media sites, or maybe along the lines of Twitter or Tumblr, which never posted spectacular profits.
behnamoh•1h ago
No, they can start selling overpriced RAMs; they might even sell it to Nvidia and buy back GPUs.
trollbridge•44m ago
Given that OpenAI’s strongest skill seems to be fundraising, I could see them transforming into a financial institution.
truetraveller•32m ago
OpenFI. Still got that jing.
herewulf•22m ago
OpenFLI. You read it here first.
popcorncowboy•57m ago
The billions and billions of dollars standing in a lonnnnng queue begging to get in the door at OpenAI suggests Bruno is a little over his skis.
dudeinjapan•26m ago
When reached for comment, Altman responded “Hold my beer”
flenserboy•23m ago
Crash the PC market, & then disappear down the drain. Fascinating business plan.

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