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The Walls Are Closing in on Tesla

https://www.planetearthandbeyond.co/p/the-walls-are-closing-in-on-tesla
22•enopod_•1h ago

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throwawaysleep•1h ago
Does he need to deliver? The past few years have demonstrated that you can just lie about the next big thing.
lawn•55m ago
You can do that longer than people think, but not forever.
iammjm•42m ago
I used to really like and admire Musk. You could say I was a fanboy. I am still asking myself what the fuck happened? Was he faking his true character all this time and managed to dupe me? Did he suffer some brain damage which changed him this drastically? Was it too much social media, was it covid-related, was he poisoned? Did too much money and power get to him? I would seriously like to know. By know, knowing about his chronic tendency to lie about the most basic stuff (such as being really good in a fucking computer game), I assume he duped me, and this makes me really, really dislike him a lot. And I can't be the only one. I hope he fails in all his endeavors.
WA•34m ago
You were duped. Tesla‘s paint it black video is from 2016 and one the first obvious lies. People called Musk out on his BS 10 years ago, but he successfully managed to keep a "genius" imagine in the media up until COVID-19 hit. Media sentiment changed around 2020/2021 to adjust to reality of Musk being a massive fraudster.
schiffern•32m ago
> I am still asking myself what the fuck happened?

I think the Scott Adams piece the other day[0] described the system dynamics well:

"Once you’re sufficiently prominent, politics becomes a separating equilibrium; if you lean even slightly to one side, the other will pile on you so massively and traumatically that it will force you into their opponents’ open arms just for a shred of psychological security."

I think Biden giving credit to GM[1] and being used as a political football, prior to Musk entering politics in a big way himself, drove him away from the left and (by process of elimination) toward the right. Once you're down the rabbit hole, the rest is history.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46646475

[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/gm-ceo-joe-biden-elon-musk-t...

cowpig•22m ago
Are you implying that "moving right" necessitates lying about basic things constantly?

Also, didn't Musk publicly quit Trump's advisory councils over exiting the Paris Agreement back in 2017? Why does that rift not qualify for your "separating politics" hypothesis?

watwut•5m ago
> Are you implying that "moving right" necessitates lying about basic things constantly?

Not OP ... but it would be consistent with observations. It is a party that admires lying and rewards it.

mft_•20m ago
I was always confused and intrigued what was going on behind the scenes when Tesla was so obviously and publicly rejected by the Biden administration in that manner.

Musk was even then a polarising figure, but given Tesla was arguably more “American” than even the self-proclaimed traditional American car companies, it seemed a weird, self-defeating, perhaps emotional, position for the administration to take.

ZeroGravitas•15m ago
The big event just before he announced he was now voting Republican in May 2022 was newspapers reporting on him sexually harassing an employee 6 years earlier.
watwut•7m ago
Except there is nothing in musks history that suggest this. His actual behavior was always consistent with who he is now. He just became more aggressive as people pointed it out.

He did not leaned a little right. He had the same political opinions, but less of narcissist rage over not being admired.

andyjohnson0•7m ago
He always was an arrogant, over-privileged arsehole. But having an army of "fanboys" will have amplified his character flaws. Ditto his involvement with Trump et al.
input_sh•5m ago
You were younger and more gullible, he still had a PR firm and didn't tweet his every "thought".
csomar•5m ago
No. He is the same person. It just happens in a certain time, what he was selling aligned with what you were buying.
jaccola•29m ago
I mostly agree, but I would have agreed with a similar article 10 years ago, and that would have been a fairly widely held opinion (e.g. Bill Gates was famously short Tesla).

So I wouldn’t be so sure as this piece is in Tesla’s downfall, and the emotive language doesn’t help this look like an objective analysis.

I also don’t like articles that take the industry consensus or expert opinion as a priori the correct opinion. Tesla wasn’t built by consensus; even the door handle example that is here touted as a negative almost certainly helped Tesla more than its harmed by being one of many unique features.

schiffern•26m ago

  >Back in 2016, Musk personally pushed for almost all vehicle functions, including the door handles, to be controlled by electric buttons or touchscreens. His own engineers and executives warned that this is a huge safety risk... They argued for traditional, fully mechanical door handles, but Musk vetoed them for purely aesthetic reasons. He even pushed for the mechanical override, meant to be used in such emergencies, to be hidden
Did anyone catch the source for this? I hadn't heard this detail before.

EDIT: I found the source[0], but that characterization is pretty misleading. The article even say that in internal discussions, "Musk wasn’t alone in pushing for electric controls."

[0] https://archive.ph/BwZTx

tjpnz•23m ago
Closing in? Try all but irrelevant outside the US. It's not going to be a make you give much thought when considering an EV purchase. Vastly different situation five years ago.
vardump•11m ago
Wasn't Tesla Model Y globally the most sold car in 2023 and 2024. And second most sold car in 2025 (Toyota RAV4 was the most sold model).

Given that, objectively speaking I could not call Tesla irrelevant.

lawn•7m ago
It's not a very good comparison as Tesla has far fewer models than other carmakers.
csomar•6m ago
Tesla might maintain its current level of sales/revenue while losing 95% of its market cap. Whether it’ll survive the market cap deflation is the question.

The market can remain irrational more than you can remain solvent. But the writing is on the wall for the valuation.

thegrim000•6m ago
I mean, when you look through the site's article history and all you see is numerous negative doomer posts about every single business Musk is involved in: SpaceX, Grok, Tesla, Optimus, Musk himself, you name it, that's probably a sign that this author is not who you should be going to in order to receive objective, unbiased, rational discussion on the topic.

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