All I know is that when I watch someone at 3am, running their tenth parallel agent session, telling me they’ve never been more productive
These people are so productive, running 10 checkouts of a repo with Claude or whoever... Code must be flying out. I'm sure github is seeing a rise in lines pushed faster than ever.
I am not seeing an explosion of products worthy of any cents out of this, though, at least nowhere near what is being evangelised by the "trust me bro, we're productivity gods now".
Where is the output of all these tokens going, when you wake up the next morning?
I've used AI quite a lot. Enough to know that an inference state machine is an inference state machine.
I want to see it, I want to believe! Show me the goods! Stop telling everyone how productive you are and show the finished work.
At least the post seems to be rightfully conclusive that people are going to go _insane_.
Vibecoding slop every night, waking up the next morning, starting again, and again. Without any meaning or end; I suspect these people will quit and move on to something else. I've been programming, probably averagely, for over 25 years -- because I like computers -- not because I like being a productivity junkie, shooting on dopamine.
Make it count.
jruohonen•1h ago
> I'm not sure how we will go ahead here, but it’s pretty clear that in projects that don’t submit themselves to the slop loop, it’s going to be a nightmare to deal with all the AI-generated noise.
> Some projects no longer accept human contributions until they have vetted the people completely.
Also reminds of the following recent piece that talked about increasing (or exploding?) verification debt:
https://cacm.acm.org/blogcacm/verification-debt-when-generat...
the_mitsuhiko•49m ago
At the very least because it's now human + coding agent, separating out the human input from the machine output in pull requests becomes necessary in my book. There are dramatic differences in prompting styles that can have completely different qualities of output and it's much easier to tell it apart from the prompts than from the outputs given that it's basically an amplification problem.
jruohonen•29m ago
I was thinking more generally and thus put the noun input in parenthesis in the quote. With agents and slop, the value for humans being there may quickly spiral down. There are also a lot of bad stuff already there, including malware and such.
If you have your own infrastructure instead of a mega-platform, you can control these things more easily.
the_mitsuhiko•27m ago
I can build my own curl in a week, but the value that curl gives me is that it's a multi decade old library, by a person that has dedicated his live to keeping the project there, keeping a quality bar etc.
The value of curl is not curl, it's the human behind it.