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Flux 2 Klein pure C inference

https://github.com/antirez/flux2.c
1•antirez•1m ago•0 comments

Rcarmo/textual-webterm: Yet another web terminal, but with style

https://github.com/rcarmo/textual-webterm
1•rcarmo•3m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Creibo – Let AI create according to your style

https://www.creaibo.net
1•Yinp•8m ago•0 comments

We caught a $1,200/month cloud cost regression in a pull request

1•cdeshwal•8m ago•1 comments

Quantum Computing for Lawyers

https://bfswa.substack.com/p/quantum-computing-for-lawyers
1•zdw•9m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Figma-like Canvas for running Claude Code agents

https://github.com/AgentOrchestrator/AgentBase
3•mprokopp•9m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Lume 0.2 – Build and Run macOS VMs with unattended setup

https://cua.ai/docs/lume/guide/getting-started/introduction
2•frabonacci•9m ago•0 comments

Trump housing plan to allow 401(k) money for down payments, adviser says

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/trump-housing-plan-allow-401k-mon...
1•tartoran•10m ago•0 comments

Musk seeks up to $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

https://www.reuters.com/business/musk-seeks-up-134-billion-openai-microsoft-wrongful-gains-2026-0...
1•tartoran•12m ago•0 comments

German industry lashes out at Trump's 'ludicrous' demands

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/german-industry-lashes-out-trumps-ludicrous-demands-2026-01-18/
2•tartoran•14m ago•0 comments

It is 2026; where were we?

https://zverok.space/blog/2026-01-18-upd.html
2•Tomte•15m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Are cross-platform UI frameworks suitable for camera apps?

1•Austin_Conlon•15m ago•0 comments

Algorithmic hover states with contrast-color()

https://daverupert.com/2026/01/algorithmic-hover-states-with-contrast-color/
1•eustoria•15m ago•0 comments

Repairing Monitor Cataracts on a Burroughs B21 / Convergent AWS Computer CRT [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lad0qRRWV0g
2•zdw•16m ago•0 comments

The Bag of Tricks for View Transitions

https://vtbag.dev/
3•eustoria•17m ago•0 comments

Firma – Email Signature Manager

https://www.tryfirma.com/
2•quincho•17m ago•1 comments

Why can't we have flying cars?

https://www.writervivek.com/2026/01/why-cant-we-have-flying-cars.html
3•VivekSiva•18m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Visualize Repetitive Lyrics

https://mquan.github.io/drylyrics/index.html
2•quan•18m ago•0 comments

Coding Agents Are for Everyone

https://writing.kunle.app/p/coding-agents-are-for-everyone
2•kunle•19m ago•0 comments

Right-wing pundits suddenly hate an AI bill. Are they getting paid to kill it?

https://www.modelrepublic.org/articles/right-wing-pundits-suddenly-hate-an-ai-bill.-are-they-gett...
3•DustinEchoes•21m ago•0 comments

USDA Scientists Ordered to Investigate Foreign Researchers

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-usda-foreign-scientists
3•mikhael•21m ago•1 comments

Gaussian Splatting – A$AP Rocky Helicopter Music Video

https://radiancefields.com/a-ap-rocky-releases-helicopter-music-video-featuring-gaussian-splatting
4•ChrisArchitect•22m ago•0 comments

Paper Airplane Designs

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5•evo_9•24m ago•1 comments

How the Lobsters front page works

https://atharvaraykar.com/lobsters/
4•g0xA52A2A•24m ago•0 comments

Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, UK

https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-de/aktuelles/statement-by-denmark-finland-france-germany-the-...
43•madspindel•29m ago•1 comments

Reputation (FDA's Version)

https://asteriskmag.com/issues/12-books/reputation-fdas-version
2•maxall4•30m ago•0 comments

Anthropic Economic Index Economic Primitives

https://www.anthropic.com/research/anthropic-economic-index-january-2026-report
1•gmays•31m ago•0 comments

"It Only Lasts 3 Hours": The Anatomy of a Common ADHD Stimulant Complaint

https://psychofarm.substack.com/p/it-only-lasts-3-hours-the-anatomy
1•paulpauper•35m ago•1 comments

A Social Filesystem by Dan Abramov

https://overreacted.io/a-social-filesystem/
1•dameis•37m ago•0 comments

Open-Source Context-AI your full PC in Context

https://contextai.com/404.html
1•blackknightdev•37m ago•1 comments
Open in hackernews

Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,UK

https://www.presidentti.fi/statement-by-denmark-finland-france-germany-the-netherlands-norway-sweden-and-the-united-kingdom-englanniksi/
295•calcifer•1h ago

Comments

saubeidl•1h ago
Americans, your Mad King is putting us all in grave danger. Would you please do something about it?
selectodude•1h ago
Unfortunately our federal government is more than powerful enough to take Greenland and mow us all down.

I am genuinely sorry that Atlanticism came down to a few hundred thousand of the dumbest Midwesterners we could find.

wyldfire•1h ago
Would that it were so easy to blame the flyover states. Almost half the people who cast votes voted for this - and at the same time voted for the status quo legislators who opt not to keep him in check.
selectodude•1h ago
The blame extends equally to everybody who supported this but due to the way American elections are set up, those people on the margins are “how” this happened.
binary132•1h ago
It’s easier to blame the heartland than it is to think about why it happened that way, isn’t it?
selectodude•1h ago
I’ve long since stopped giving a fuck about why these people are the way they are.
Geonode•1h ago
He won the popular vote.
leviathant•1h ago
...among the people who voted. There are a lot of folks who opted out that bear responsibility for the way this country and its power is being dismantled.

He wouldn't win the popular vote today! Why is it that when you call yourself a Republican, you take a very narrow margin of victory and consider it a mandate to only listen to your fanbase? I bet it feels fun at first, and there are a few people who get very wealthy and powerful as a result, but reality always comes crashing back down.

I suppose that if the talk of suspending mid-term elections bears fruit, that changes the equation.

Geonode•51m ago
The people who opted out do bear responsibility.

Would he win the popular vote today? Hard to know. Only the kind of people who are willing to talk to pollsters end up in polls.

Both parties tend to claim a high moral position and definitive mandate from a narrow margin of victory.

Talk of suspending mandates, third terms, and invading Greenland are exactly how he keeps winning- talk past your goal, and retreat to victory.

nibbleyou•1h ago
Don't the Americans have the second amendment to save themselves from their government?
kentm•1h ago
“Second Amendment solutions” are only OK to talk about if you’re a Republican (I.e. “Real American”).

I’m being sarcastic, for the record. Back during his first term, Trump talked about “second amendment people” doing something about liberal Supreme Court justices (iirc) and the right wing media treated everyone as crazy for thinking that was wildly inappropriate.

nibbleyou•1h ago
It's really interesting how the same propaganda is applied by fascist governments everywhere. The ones supporting the "nationalist" government are the patriots and the others are enemies
__turbobrew__•1h ago
The second amendment almost ended the current government.
DetectDefect•1h ago
It was effectively neutered in almost all juristictions, mostly with "assault" weapon bans.
hdgvhicv•59m ago
The average Waco wacko can’t possible to fight even a small contingent from the local national guard, let alone a military with trillions of dollars of meteriel

All the assault weapons you can store in your shed are useless when an f35 takes them out from 300 miles away.

DetectDefect•57m ago
> an f35 takes them out from 300 miles away.

Ah yes, and if I recall, that is how the US won in Vietnam ... oh wait. Your comment is a perfect example of the very problem I described.

pseudosavant•1h ago
The truth is that on average Republicans have way more guns that Democrats.

Anecdata but… I’ve personally known many Republicans who have massive gun collections and even personal shooting ranges in their basement. I’ve never met a Democrat with any of that.

Only one side of this conflict is meaningfully armed and they are already in power.

djeastm•55m ago
Well 40% of the population or so approves of the administration, so it's more like "to save themselves from their government and 40% of the rest of the population". That means resorting to the 2A is, at the very best, a rather weak bet.
bjourne•1h ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness

You can still call your congressman, senator, local political, councilman, or someone else, spend 30 mins watching a demonstration, donate $10 to Amnesty, tell a random dude in fatigues "grateful for your service but please don't invade Greenland". The more people that do these kind of things the harder it gets for the Fascists to brand those that do as left-wing terrorists.

selectodude•1h ago
I’ve been tear gassed. I’m out here trying. I just know it’s gonna get a lot worse before it gets better. The regime is losing its grip and the only way out that fascists know is to escalate the violence.

Invading Greenland is a symptom of us on the ground fighting back. It’s to prove to Americans that we’re now isolated.

DrDeadCrash•1h ago
Republicans love this, legally speaking we can do nothing.
leviathant•55m ago
Legally speaking, the Republicans have been losing in court over and over. That doesn't mitigate the damage they're doing during the lag, and the consequences for breaking the law have never been as strong as they should be when officers of the law and elected officials are the ones breaking the law.

But it is important to acknowledge the wins. They do have an effect, and that's the only path we seem to have toward slowing down the march to autocracy.

mrweasel•1h ago
As a Dane, while slightly angry, and gravely concerned for the people of Greenland, I'm still more fearful of the safety and mental well-being of my US friends and colleague than I am for my own.
teiferer•19m ago
A Dane not in Greenland I suppose.
DetectDefect•1h ago
Literally cannot. The asymmetry of technology which we have allowed to grow and flourish makes it infeasible. Flock and other manifestations of this beast sends shivers down spines and prevents any serious resistance.
Symbiote•1h ago
You can protest or go on strike, for example.

Refuse to buy from any company that supports the current administration (like Microsoft). End contracts where they exist.

DetectDefect•1h ago
You can also put a bumper sticker on your car decrying world events and this would have about as much effect as your suggestions.
undeveloper•56m ago
striking is extremely tangible compared to protesting
DetectDefect•25m ago
This thread is about effectiveness, not tangibility (which ironically proves my point).
yoyohello13•53m ago
Trump wants civil unrest, it allows him to justify his use of military force against the populace.
pjmlp•1h ago
Apparently the right to port arms doesn't apply to take down dictorships.

We all know they fall down by showing painted signs at street demos. /s

pengaru•1h ago
don't forget the pink hats and furry costumes
leviathant•1h ago
While you're remembering things you shouldn't forget, pay attention to how the Black Panthers are out in Philadelphia, and ICE isn't messing around over here. We chased those Patriot Front clowns out immediately, too.

But yeah, focus on the peaceful citizens making their voices heard, if that makes you feel more secure about how things are going.

cjonas•1h ago
You have no idea what it's like to be American right now. The propaganda information war that's being waged in us is overwhelming and it appears to be working. The world needs to start preparing for a reality where the US can no longer be relied on for security or economic stability. For the sake of all of us, I hope that our European allies are taking serious steps to become more independent from US power and security.
undersuit•1h ago
Our Congress and Supreme Court are beholden to him. State and Individual resistance will be treated as rebellion. The legal pathways have us waiting until elections. The line of succession is GOP 40 levels deeps.

If we successfully revolt the US doesn't survive in any form to stabilize the world built around us and there is no guarantee that the ruling party isn't MAGA-like.

The rubicon was crossed. This is the new normal.

pseudosavant•1h ago
We are trying. Please realize that the second largest conflict (based on spending) in the world right now, behind the Russian invasion of Ukraine, is DJT’s ICE attacks on the US. That is how much he is spending to attack his own country. More than Israel spends to occupy Palestinians.

Sadly, if you look at polling, none of this is remotely unpopular with US Republican voters. Our country’s union is hanging on by tattered threads.

saubeidl•1h ago
Maybe your country's union was a bad idea? Feels like it's allowed the regressive parts to keep control over the greater whole. Maybe y'all should've just let secession happen - at least the worst parts of America would've been contained.
pseudosavant•1h ago
I encourage you to watch or read the Handmaid’s Tale if you want to see what that could look like.
rpiguy•31m ago
Pretty rich considering Denmark force-sterilized the native peoples of Greenland. Leftist/Communist governments are far more likely to dictate birth policy than any right wing government. See also the One Child Policy in China.
teiferer•19m ago
Those sterilized during Nazi rule would like a word.
perihelions•10m ago
Are you familiar with America's history with eugenics? Contemporary with Denmark's human rights abuses in Greenland you're bringing up (1960's–70's), America's government was doing very much the same thing, to their own vulnerable minorities.

> "Between the span of the 1930s to the 1970s, nearly one-third of the female population in Puerto Rico was sterilized; at the time, this was the highest rate of sterilization in the world.[120] "

> "An estimated 40% of Native American women (60,000–70,000 women) and 10% of Native American men in the United States underwent sterilization in the 1970s.[125]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States ("Eugenics in the United States")

rpiguy•4m ago
I am aware. Happened when the government was mostly controlled by Democrats/leftists. Makes sense they were against desegregation.
leviathant•59m ago
It's easy to look at the politics of individual states as a means of breaking things up if you ignore the economics. Things get very complicated, very quickly when you set a political threshold for breaking up the country.
dyauspitr•58m ago
The South wasn’t punished enough after the civil war is where a lot of this stems from. There was no cleaning house like what happened with Germany after WW2.
dyauspitr•58m ago
The Americans you’re trying to reach are not here. They’re in Facebook and right wing social bubbles with a constant influx of fresh slop propaganda. It’s unprecedented in the fact that it’s affecting people at the family unit level with people tearing off into political parties within families that cut off all contact from each other.
yoyohello13•47m ago
You'd be surprised how many people on HN voted for this. A lot of people seem to only care about their stock portfolio, and Trump makes number go up.
rpiguy•28m ago
Has nothing to do with my stock portfolio but I do appreciate you acknowledging that plenty of Hacker News readers like me are conservative.

The assumption of left wing political consensus on this platform is astonishing at times.

hwguy45•13m ago
Well I'm here but my clients get down voted and flagged. Hn is its own bubble.
yoyohello13•55m ago
Blame all the HNers who voted for this admin because they "didn't want any woke business regulations" or whatever.
rendall•1h ago
As a US citizen resident of Finland, I am proud of my adoptive country. I have been so far relatively neutral-to- vaguely-supportive of MAGA wrt the culture wars, and I find Trump's posturing on Greenland appalling and disgraceful. Yes, we all know that Trump's MO is to demand something horrendous in order to secure something less horrendous, but there is no path from threatening an ally's sovereignty that leads to anything good for the US. Monstrous.
mkw5053•1h ago
This isn’t an aberration, it’s a continuation. Trump has repeatedly done things that would have been disqualifying for any normal president: threatening allies, undermining institutions, abusing power, normalizing coercion. The reason this moment feels different to some people isn’t that the behavior changed, it’s that they’re finally among those bearing the downside. That normalization, enabled by years of “it doesn’t affect me” neutrality, is part of how we got here.
rendall•1h ago
That's only part of it. It feels worse now because everything is visible. Information moves instantly. Evidence is public. Financial trails can be followed. Citizens now expect ethical behavior from their leaders as a baseline rather than a bonus. In earlier eras, people slept better largely because they didn’t know what was happening, not because leaders were more virtuous.

For decades now, elite self-dealing, institutional opacity, and captured power steadily eroded public trust. Trump did not arrive as a reformer. He arrived as a punishment mechanism. A stress test. Unfortunately, US elites are drawing the wrong lessons so far.

csa•18m ago
> Citizens now expect ethical behavior from their leaders as a baseline rather than a bonus.

Amongst the MAGA voters I know, ethical behavior is very much a “hope for” bonus than an expectation.

There is a lot of ends-justify-the-means rhetoric in that voter pool that I talk to.

rjsw•1h ago
It stopped people asking about the Epstein files.
rendall•1h ago
... I don't think it stopped people from talking about it, though. That gambit has failed.
827a•1h ago
If the EU is good at one thing, its definitely putting out statements.
tariky•1h ago
And slow Bureaucracy :)
torlok•1h ago
This "EU is weak" rhetoric straight from right-wing Twitter is exactly what's fueling Trump and Miller. China already called Trump's bluff, EU will too. We'll see how long the US economy is going to last when it can't even fund its own government.
bflesch•1h ago
Don't worry, you're either arguing with useful idiots or pathetic SOBs working in a propaganda unit in russia.
yetihehe•59m ago
The problem is that if no one responds to such idiots, even more idiots might be swayed into their direction.
binary132•1h ago
Perhaps the EU shouldn’t be posting this stuff if they don’t want to be perceived that way.

https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/2012472380786925947?s=20

torlok•56m ago
1 glance at the timeline shows this is a pro-Russian Twitter account.
malfist•57m ago
Don't worry, we've not funded our government for a while now. National debt out front should have told ya
fritzorino•35m ago
You are reliant on the kindness of strangers to fund your government spending.
adventured•55m ago
"We'll see how long the US economy is going to last when it can't even fund its own government."

This is fantasy thinking, projection of a subjective wish.

The dollar is the global reserve currency and is under no serious threat to be displaced (and no, the dollar dropping back to where it was a couple of years ago vs the Euro, is not a meaningful event).

The US economy is by far the world's largest and now dwarfs the Eurozone.

To answer your question: the US economy is going to last a very long time yet. So far it has lasted hundreds of years. Please provide a comparison to any other economy that has lasted so long and done so well. You'll be able to name two or three examples maximum.

In the moment people tend to get hyper emotional, hyperbolic. They think something fundamental is changing. That's almost always nothing more than personal subjective projection of what they want to have happen, rather than an objective assessment of reality. Back in reality the US has survived and thrived through drastically worse than anything going on in the present. The Vietnam era was far worse both socially/culturally and economically. WW2 was drastically worse. The Civil War was drastically worse. The Great Depression was drastically worse. But oh yeah sure, the US superpower is about to end any day now.

torlok•46m ago
Europe survived 2 devastating home wars in the last 100 years, a lot of it was under Soviet occupation, and has smaller natural deposits. The US economy is being propped-up by cheap credit and blitzscaling of tech, and the money is running out. Those companies have to start making money, and the european market is critical to that. The rest of the US market is stagnant at best. The US consumer market is being held up by the top 10% of spenders. The real US economy is disconnected from the stock market and GDP. The average US consumer is weak, and the US is not going to last a trade war with EU and China. Meanwhile the EU signing trade deals.
teiferer•41m ago
The US economy is currently to overwhelming extent a bunch of tech companies betting hard on that AI will revolutionize everything. With huge circular economy. Once that bubble bursts, you'll see where you really stand
_trampeltier•40m ago
Don't forget, wars really end much much later. The civil war endet in 31. March 2020

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irene_Triplett

> To answer your question: the US economy is going to last a very long time yet. So far it has lasted hundreds of years.

How old is the US?

> The dollar is the global reserve currency and is under no serious threat to be displaced

Everybody leavs the dollar since a while.

fritzorino•39m ago
> They think something fundamental is changing

What is not fundamental about the end of NATO? What is not fundamental about the US actively working to give up its role as global hegemon? The US may survive but that doesn't mean it's not fundamental.

I swear you yanks playing down every single thing that Trump does, as if history has ended, are insane.

The USA will reap what it is currently sowing and it frankly will deserve it.

mxkopy•32m ago
The problem is deeper than economics. It’s the festering wound of reconstruction turning putrid. It doesn’t have to be the end of the US, but it certainly can be.

Also, I’m not sure the US economy was even great for most of the periods you mentioned. The question of if the US survives to have the same economic standing that it did in the 1800s is not that compelling

isoprophlex•1h ago
It would be extremely funny if they were to end one of these statements with "thank you for your attention to this matter"
rhyperior•1h ago
Except that’s just normalizing his behaviors.
metabagel•38m ago
It’s not. It’s mocking.
isoprophlex•25m ago
"tHAnK yOu fOR yOuR ATteNTiOn to tHIs mATtER" then
mlinhares•1h ago
The real message would be to pull out of the world cup.
cuu508•44m ago
World cup of what sport? If the message is to Trump, I assume golf?
koolba•41m ago
Even if that happened I don’t think the USA would have a shot at the trophy.
a_paddy•1h ago
Why don't you go charge your iPhone with your USB-C charger, that 3rd party app store is draining it's battery.
Kelteseth•50m ago
Still the funniest thing when Americans hate our democratic freedom to decide how companies that sell products here have to behave. Go EU!
wtcactus•56m ago
And regulating bottle caps. We are great at that as well.

Maybe - just hear me out - if, instead of spending the last decades regulating idiotic things, destroying our industry to appease ignorant (or worse, traitorous) environmentalists, opening our borders to a flood of unchecked immigration that further damaged our social services and social fabric, weakening our military because Merkel didn’t want to spend money on it ( and instead pushed us into gas agreements with Russia) and constantly apologizing - effectively shooting ourselves in the foot out of some twisted sense of shame - for having modernized, democratized, and explored the planet, and instead, maybe, just maybe, we had spent that time strengthening our industry, society, and military, we wouldn’t now have to bow to Daddy USA.

The truth is that we are helpless without them and can’t even unite to stand up to Russia at present.

surgical_fire•36m ago
Show on a bottle where the bottle caps have hurt you.
teiferer•34m ago
Had Merkel not opened the border in 2015, Germany would be far worse off. If you ever set foot into a German retirement home, hospital, restaurant, random shop at the central station, cinema, xmas market, you name it, you realize that all those immigrants are currently carrying the economy.

She should get a prize for this instead of being blamed. Even if you don't care about the moral aspect of helping refugees.

wtcactus•10m ago
In Germany, 33% of the people in working age, don't work [1]. The "refugees are carrying the economy", because you are effectively paying 33% of the local working age population (I'm here assuming you aren't paying refugees to go there and not work, right?) to slack. Remove their benefits and see how quickly you don't need to import people to do those jobs.

And no, I don't care about the "moral aspect" of not "helping refugees". If you care, you welcome them into your own place.

Also, notice how you didn't go into the gas deals Merkel did with Russia and forced upon the rest of the EU.

[1]: https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/employment-rate

getnewmaterial•5m ago
>I'm here assuming you aren't paying refugees to go there and not work, right? incorrect
tokai•41m ago
What are you talking about. Trumps US-EU trade deal has been halted, and a response to Trumps 1th. feb tariffs is being drawn up right now. EU not doing anything in your head, try following the news.
shmerl•1h ago
Trump wants to normalize Putinism. It's beyond disgusting. He should end up in prison for it.
LgWoodenBadger•1h ago
He should already be in prison NOW. He’s a convicted felon.
shmerl•28m ago
He might end up there next year.
FpUser•1h ago
Too much credit. Thigs like this were done way before Putin came to power.
garganzol•1h ago
The prior art was that Austrian guy who just wanted to become a painter but was rejected from joining a school.
shmerl•40m ago
It was done, but it wasn't normalized. These crooks want to present it as normal. There should be a very strong push against this garbage.
FpUser•26m ago
It was normalized. It is just the first time in modern history when it happens to "wrong people"
sepositus•1h ago
"Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times."
garganzol•1h ago
You are getting downvoted because people see their own reflection in that statement. And they don't like what they are seeing.
kubb•58m ago
Thinking in memes isn’t going to lead us to a better world.

Least we can do is downvote it.

dyauspitr•55m ago
Thinking in memes is exactly what the right is doing. It’s short, succinct and pretty much a termination point for all further thought on the matter.
rf15•54m ago
The thing itself speaks seemingly a truth though: growing up too coddled will risk a twisted perspective of what you deserve and what's a given.
kubb•50m ago
Seemingly? Do you have any indication that this is a consistent pattern in the world outside of imagination?
garganzol•40m ago
If you think that it's just an imagination, the universe will make you physically feel what it really is. Not all at once, but gradually, drop by drop. And then, you'll learn the true meaning of another "meme" word: ignorance.
kubb•23m ago
Or you’ll find out that strong men thinking in memes create even worse times.
garganzol•3m ago
In any case, that's the beauty of life: we live the consequences. Both sweet and bitter, depending on choices of the past.
bee_rider•54m ago
It is getting downvoted because it is a well known silly trope. Generally, success reinforces itself. That’s why there have been a bunch of countries that have had multi-generational streaks of repeated success. Eventually, this feedback look can fail, but it isn’t on some predictable four generation pattern.
csa•12m ago
> Eventually, this feedback look can fail, but it isn’t on some predictable four generation pattern.

Actually, it kind of is.

See The Fourth Turning and any other book based on the Strauss-Howe generational theory.

Is this theory air-tight and inviolable? No. Does it more or less support this “silly trope”? Yes. I think it’s safe to say that it is directionally correct.

rf15•56m ago
Yeah, we've been here before. Empires don't necessarily fall by the hand of their enemies as much as they fall by their own hands and hubris. See: UK, Germany, Russia, historical China and other asian countries, hell even the Romans, and so on and so forth, we've had it all. Trump is nothing new, just another fool in a long line of fools.
mrKola•1h ago
Sorry Europe. Our clown in chief will do everything to cover the Epstein files.
skeledrew•1h ago
If only there had been a similar showing when it was Venezuela being threatened.
Ucalegon•1h ago
Sigh... this is real life and I hate it as an American. The Danes had over 50 [1] Danish lives wasted in the NATO mission in Afghanistan and Iraq and this is how we pay the Danes back when they had America's back, paid in blood.

Its so disappointing and tragic.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crmjewpkje9o

tokai•16m ago
Danes put up a courteous face right now to get through this, but the relationship to the US is permanently harmed. Even the most pro US politicians are saying the relationship will never go back to what it was before this.
United857•1h ago
Despite all the talk about military action, the fact is that Europe is one of the main trading partners of the US and holds a substantial share of US debt. Any invasion would be economic suicide, and I think even Trump realizes this.
thatguy0900•1h ago
I'm not convinced trump cares about economic suicide at all
malfist•24m ago
Trump barely thinks about first order effects, much less second order. He probably doesn't know it's economic suicide. And when it happens he'll tell us both "nobody knows more than me" and "nobody knew global commerce was this complicated" and then he'll tell us he'll have a plan to fix it in two weeks
drysine•1h ago
>holds a substantial share of US deb

That's the EU's problem, not Trump's)

alibarber•50m ago
A mass selloff of US bonds will mean that the US can’t sell any more - because the market is suddenly flooded with bonds at a ‘discount’. This means that the US can’t take on any more debt (borrow money)

Why would you pay the US $10 when you can get the same thing from France for $8?

Or the US then has to issue bonds with massively inflated returns - i.e. pay a much higher interest rate.

drysine•44m ago
>This means that the US can’t take on any more debt (borrow money)

They can literally print them

bojan•48m ago
No, that's the member states' problem, not of the EU. The debt is not shared.
throw0101c•31m ago
> Any invasion would be economic suicide, and I think even Trump realizes this.

Your mistaking is in using rationality and logic.

binary132•1h ago
Personally I find all of the pretense and posturing around these issues both comical and concerning. The Arctic Circle is opening, and Chinese and Russian pressure will increase. At this time, there is no sign that Canada and the European nations will be in a position to even put up a shadow of resistance to it.
bonsai_spool•1h ago
> Personally I find all of the pretense and posturing around these issues both comical and concerning

> There is no sign that Canada and the European nations will be in a position to even put up a shadow of resistance to it.

Same for the US. There has been ample reporting about how there is no shipbuilding capacity in the US (but there still is in Europe).

Hamuko•1h ago
Don't worry, the US is ordering icebreakers from Finland (which will now get hit by with a 25% tariff).
mikeyouse•1h ago
If only there was some sort of military alliance that covered the northern Atlantic.
torlok•1h ago
This comment shows why the damage done by Trump will be so hard to reverse, no matter who's in charge next. When Trump talks about taking Greenland, the answer should be "no, moron, it's effectively a part of NATO", and instead you get all this muddying analysis of the strategic signifficance of Greenland, history, and how the EU is weak.
surgical_fire•26m ago
Trump is a symptom. The US cannot be trusted because we will always be one US election away of this bullshit again, because there are a lot of people there that actually agree with this.

The EU should be untangling itself from the US as quickly as possible. Any dependency on it is a major security risk.

paxys•1h ago
Russia can barely hold its own in a war against a neighboring country 30x smaller than them. Do people really still think they are a threat on the global stage anymore? China, yes, but their tactic is economic rather than military. And they are already winning in that front considering how dependent the rest of the world is on their manpower and manufacturing.

It's pretty clear that going forward the only real military threat the rest of the world has to concern itself with is the USA.

palata•1h ago
I guess from the point of view of Europeans and Canada, the Arctic Circle is opening and Chinese, Russian and US pressure will increase. I hear they found a new powerful enemy recently.
r_lee•53m ago
There wouldn't have been a problem if the US would've just done a deal go deploy all their stuff on Greenland, hell, even a whole autonomous military zone or something?

But nooooo, they gotta buy the whole thing like it's Alaska or something.

I don't get it. Especially because now Russia/China will actually get real interested in the Arctic, plus that they now have an opportunity to disrupt the alliance and delegitimize NATO etc.

profsummergig•42m ago
Like Trump, I too am a (albeit, small-time) real estate guy. Ownership gives me tingles that renting could never give me. You rent a place for 30 years, diligently pay rent, and in the end you own nothing? Pshaw.
metabagel•23m ago
Trump wants to acquire Greenland and rent it back to the Greenlanders.
Nursie•40m ago
They don’t even need a deal, the agreements have been in place since sometime in the 1950s.
Nursie•41m ago
The US used to have multiple military bases in Greenland during the Cold War. It has closed most of them and is down to one.

It could, at any time, reopen them and move troops there under existing agreements, or build more. Nobody would bat an eyelid.

To pretend this is about defence is nonsense. It’s about taking territory.

rpiguy•5m ago
The Danish demanded we close those bases and get out fast or they might still be there.
yujzgzc•1h ago
When Trump said NATO allies needed to increase defense spending, did he mean it to protect against US?
jbverschoor•1h ago
I think Mexico should take back California. They need it, and I’m sure they appreciate it more.
adventured•21m ago
I think they should try. Conflict with the US worked out so well last time. How much territory do they want to lose this time?
mxkopy•18m ago
Fragility like this is not a small cause of this mess
jbverschoor•13m ago
Like most things.. risk-reward.. and different times. 180 years ago, the dollar and power was different.

Right now? Trump is risking a worldwar trying to save the dollar/energy/make the history books.

They can take Texas back while they're at it. Or perhaps Elon wants to take it.

joduplessis•1h ago
"I'm in the Empire Business"
wronex•1h ago
As a side note. Beware when exporting to the USA using UPS. Especially when having the receiver pay for imports and taxes. UPS does not enforce payment. They will hand out the package before receiving the taxes and tolls. Then, they force you, the exporter, to pay, since you’ve agreed to it by accepting their terms and conditions. I’ve learnt this the hard way.
ireflect•59m ago
Also been hit with this using DHL. Doing trade with the USA is such a gamble now with so much uncertainty.
stavros•58m ago
That explains why they gave me the package and then sent me a bill for import duties a month later.
magicalhippo•49m ago
They typically do this because they don't have enough warehouse space to keep the packages temporarily, and also because it wouldn't be very Express if it adds another day or two.

But if the value is high or you've landed on their naughty list, they'll have you pay before receiving the package.

_trampeltier•1h ago
One thing I never heard a talk about. What would happen to all the US bases in the NATO countrys? I can't imagine the US could fly from NATOs countrys bases and attack Greenland and partner. Would for ex. germany attack Ramstein?
sschueller•57m ago
At some point Germany and others will feel the US presence on their soil being occupation forces and not joint NATO forces.
drysine•40m ago
>being occupation forces

That's literally what they are. American forces appeared in Germany in 1945.

metabagel•28m ago
They’re not occupying forces. There is a status of forces agreement between the two countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_forces_agreement

Scarblac•41m ago
Yes, in case of an actual war the US soldiers on those bases would quickly become prisoners of war.
ares623•1h ago
I wonder how Americans will feel if they get treated like how Muslims were treated after 9/11
profsummergig•45m ago
How were Muslims treated? I don't remember anything other than isolated incidents.
azan_•1h ago
The only way for Europe forward is actual federalization. Unfortunately right wing parties will never let it happen so entire Europe is doomed to become marginalized by China and US.
jonkoops•46m ago
Indeed, petty national topics that are used to create fake polarization against Brussels, is what is keeping us from realizing the federation we so desperately need. I am so tired of the endless, unbased right-wing arguments from nationalists against the EU, which only exist to distract from their own incompetencies.
anttiharju•1h ago
I would like to live in less historical times.

I'm a Finn.

duxup•24m ago
Same, American.

I don’t know why we got to be assholes. I prefer speaking softly and carrying a big stick.

cdrnsf•1h ago
Trump's domestic policy is a failure and taking drastic abroad (as many past administrations have done as a distraction) is also failing.
matsemann•58m ago
Can't Denmark just stop selling ozempic or so to the US? Would be an uproar in no time.
Hamuko•52m ago
Doesn't Ozempic already have competition on the market?
adventured•49m ago
In the hypothetical amused scenario: no, that won't work, there are several alternatives now.

If the US can extract Maduro, it can extract the leadership of Novo Nordisk, their lead scientists and all of their intellectual property.

/amused scenario

murderfs•47m ago
Sure, it could blow up its economy and have the U.S. just switch to the existing domestic alternative, which also appears to be superior (tirzepatide).
simonsarris•47m ago
Eli Lilly has GLP-1 injectables and will have an oral pill this year. Novo Nordisk has already dropped that ball.

Hence Eli Lilly +40% in the last year and Novo -23%. Or on a longer timescale you can see the problem:

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/NVO:NYSE?sa=X&sqi=2&ved...

maxerickson•23m ago
What should they have done differently to prevent a competitor from entering a valuable market?

"Pricing power fell when someone else entered the market" isn't dropping a ball is why I ask.

causal•47m ago
Not really, probably a majority of Americans look down on people using Ozempic
mamonster•57m ago
Trump is gonna end up destroying EU right wing parties which have been very pro-Trump exactly like he did to Pollievre.

I wonder whether UK media decide to hammer Farage over his Trump connections to screw Reform super hard.

tokai•27m ago
Danish right wingers that rubbed shoulders with MAGA are trying to bury their pro trump stuff hard right now.
cedws•56m ago
Putin is laughing his head off. Everything he could have ever dreamed of is playing out right now.
tokai•29m ago
And he's still no better off.
cedws•25m ago
In what context? Personally? In rebuilding the Soviet Union? Or in the war?
maxloh•56m ago
I wonder how the current events in Greenland will impact the safety and sovereignty of Taiwan.

The US is Taiwan’s most important military ally, even if that relationship remains unofficial. It is also the most critical power in the First Island Chain. If the US stopped being a global superpower, countries like Japan and South Korea might not be willing to aid in defending Taiwan on their own.

Keyframe•50m ago
I wonder how the current events in Greenland will impact the safety and sovereignty of Taiwan.

That was my thought as well. It's a dangerous rhetoric being displayed by USA. "We need this land for our security". Turns out, what if other powers start using the same rhetoric? Russia did it already for Ukraine, China might say "We need Taiwan for our security".. where does it stop and ultimately it leads absolutely nowhere good.

randallsquared•27m ago
China already claims Taiwan, and has for decades; the only thing keeping it practically separate is uncertainty over the outcome in various dimensions if China tries to take it militarily. I don't think there's any doubt that if they were sure they could take it relatively bloodlessly and without significant repercussion, they would do so immediately.
maxloh•20m ago
Diplomatic relationships are rarely about justice, because they are almost always about power and influence.

In fact, the US and its allies have been the only major powers advocating for a "rules-based international order." On the other side, you have Russia annexing Crimea in 2014, and China building artificial islands in the South China Sea to forcefully claim territory that isn't theirs under international law. Not to mention that all authoritarian states, by their very nature, are a clear violation of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which defines democracy and freedom of speech as basic human rights.

But at the same time, the US doesn't need a moral justification to sanction China over AI hardware. It is, as always, about power and influence.

The worrying part is that the US is losing its global influence by threatening an ally over Greenland. If they ever resort to military measures, they would lose all influence over the EU, and that would leave Taiwan in a very dangerous spot.

kayo_20211030•47m ago
True. Taiwan is an important ally, unofficially. The folks the US is feuding with right now are also allies, but officially. As are Japan and South Korea. It can't be encouraging.
jimbohn•28m ago
IMO, China will get back Taiwan without firing a single shot, the US is slowly de-risking itself from it and will eventually make Taiwan redundant. After seeing how the US is "helping" Ukraine, will the Taiwanese think fighting an all-out war with allies like this is worth it? China doesn't have the same genocidal intentions russia has towards Ukraine, so less reasons for people to fight it out
m000•55m ago
Since Trump can't walk away from NATO [1], could the claim on Greenland be a ruse to force the de-facto resolution of NATO?

He probably sees Europe as too meek to do anything more dramatic/substantial. And believes that without NATO, Europe would buy more US weapons that they now get "for free".

[1] https://www.dirittoue.info/u-s-legislation-restricts-preside...

csense•54m ago
I think the administration's real goal isn't taking over Greenland. I think it's scaring the EU enough about the possibility the US might take over Greenland that the EU pays to fortify it so the US doesn't have to. (Somebody needs to fortify it, because the world is warming and it will become a strategically important trade choke point when a Northwest Passage opens up.)

Just like Trump being hot-and-cold on Ukraine. The administration's real goal isn't the US letting Russia take over Europe or even Ukraine. The goal is to scare the EU enough about the possibility the US might let Russia take over Europe or Ukraine that they start paying the expense of making sure that doesn't happen.

Greenland only has a population of 56k. If the US really wanted to buy Greenland, it should suggest a referendum whether Greenland should be annexed by the US, then pass a law that says the US will give each Greenlander $1 million if the referendum passes. I'm sure it would pass in a landslide and it would only cost $56 billion, which seems much lower than the price of trying to capture it militarily.

sph•53m ago
Ah yes, the "Donald Trump is playing 4D chess" story his supporters have been repeating since 2016.
fritzorino•53m ago
That is just sane washing dogshit, retarded foreign policy from the Paedophile in Chief. Why assume there is a grand play? The most likely explanation for what Trump is doing is exactly what he is says.
bojan•49m ago
That would be a horrible deal for the Greenlanders, and they know it - there were polls recently and Vance was pretty much told that when he visited there.

The US is allowed for decades to have a military presence on Greenland, but the US Army has been diminishing it's presence as the time went by.

adventured•25m ago
Up it to $5 million per Greenlander then. The US can afford to pull the trigger on a $250-$280 billion acquisition. The EU can't afford to counter it. To put that sum into perspective for the US economy: that's merely 2.x years of operating income for Google. There's no scenario where the people of Greenland reject that $250b offer in a free vote.
dsign•41m ago
I don't know if I understand, grasp or agree with the geopolitics in your comment, but the weather in the north has indeed been getting nicer as of late; last summer I spent quite some time swimming in the beach without wearing thermal suits or anything at all really. So if anybody thinks that living in US is a tough bite to swallow lately, emigrating to Scandinavia or Iceland is not such a bad thing. Greenland though is still a little too bare tree-less and bare for my taste, and there my wild speculation[^1] is that the current US administration is looking for some harsh hell to set up forced labor camps to send anybody they don't like.

[^1] With NATO, the security reason given by US makes no sense. And as for natural resources, I'm sure there are perfectly legal and inexpensive mechanisms that US can use to set up mining operations in Greenland.

tokai•33m ago
>US might take over Greenland that the EU pays to fortify it so the US doesn't have to

Does not make sense. Denmark had already budgeted with a huge increase of military capabilities on Greenland. If US wanted more they could talk with their allied.

And the 'lol just pay them' argument is tone deaf and insulting to the Greenlanders. If you followed along you would know that they have already stated that they would not take money. To say nothing about the laws that governs the Kingdom and the process of leaving the it. Which can not be deferred by paying anyone. But I guess americans have a really hard time understanding the rule of law now.

adventured•27m ago
The goal in Ukraine for the US is to bleed Russia. While Russia is busy in Ukraine, it's losing its influence and positions, from Syria to Iran.

The ideal for the US superpower right now, is to collapse Iran's regime while Russia is kept busy in Ukraine. It's unable to lend support to prop up its allies. The peace efforts are fake, meant to maintain a constant back and forth that never really goes anywhere. The US system has been focused on trying to strip Russia out of that region for decades, since before 9/11. Iraq was about Russia. Syria was about Russia. The first Gulf War was about decimating the Soviet supplied Iraqi army with the latest generation of US weapons, to put them to the test.

Most of the agenda exists from one administration to the next. The Pentagon works on its strategic aims across decades (see Bush & Obama & Trump and pivoting against China).

The US superpower is interested in the great power conflicts, it's not interested in Iraq because of oil, or Venezuela because of oil. It's about Russia and China, the other components (oil, chips, weapons, etc) are mere strategic calculations on the board.

dismalaf•51m ago
Europeans will really do anything except confront Russia and China.

A little history lesson: the US has defacto and dejure been defending Greenland since WWII (they've had a defence pact since Denmark fell to the Nazis). US bases have been on Greenland from then to the current day.

Even after Ukraine, Europe buys Russian gas. Even with all the threats from China towards Taiwan, Europeans are cozying up to them. And Europe still doesn't adequately defend itself, with a few exceptions.

While Trump is erratic in public, all recent US moves point to a confrontation with Russia/China in the near future. And Europe just sits by twiddling their thumbs. Feels like Eastern Europe and the Baltics are the only ones who take it seriously.

legitster•48m ago
Even all of the purely imperialistic stated reasons for taking Greenland make no sense.

National security? We already have the right to station as many troops there as we want! And we have actually removed troops recently.

Mineral rights? America is already richly endowed - its just impossible to access what we have when permitting is almost impossible. If there were actually valuable lodes in Greenland, it would probably be easier to mine now!

The only thing I can think of are the warm fuzzies you may feel as a despot to take land and enrage your allies.

teiferer•30m ago
> National security?

Plus, punishing exactlty those Nato partners who are sending military there to see how to strengthen the defense. That shows you don't want Greenland stronger, militarily. You want it weaker to have less issues when you invade it.

Tangokat•44m ago
The Americans on HN driving tech, science and innovation are enabling Trump to do this. Without you he would be nothing. Where is your integrity? Do you think having no allies makes you more safe? Is this really the world you want?
teiferer•28m ago
How are US tech folks more enabling Trump than anybody else who pays tax there?
throwaway5235•8m ago
"Elon Musk, the world’s richest man, spent more than $290 million supporting Donald Trump and his MAGA allies on the campaign trail last year." [1]

"Exclusive: How Palantir's Alex Karp went full MAGA" [2]

Look at All In Podcast - tech VCs - they are all in support of this administration.

[1] https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-polit...

[2] https://www.axios.com/2025/10/23/trump-alex-karp-palantir-ma...

whoamii•43m ago
When the next terrorist attack happens on US soil, who will be surprised?
EastLondonCoder•37m ago
This isn’t really about Greenland’s strategic value; it’s about the category error. You can trade goods, sign treaties, and negotiate basing rights. You can’t “buy” a people or their sovereignty especially when they don’t consent. That’s why Europe responds with process and principle: normalize coercion-as-bargaining among allies and you’re reviving a pre-1945 model of politics Europe built institutions to prevent.

It’s also lose-lose for the US. There isn’t a positive outcome. If it’s dropped, the damage is “just” reputational and partly repairable. If it’s pursued: tariffs, threats, coercion. It burns trust inside NATO, accelerates European strategic decoupling, and hands a propaganda gift to every US adversary. A forced takeover would be a catastrophic own-goal: legitimacy crisis, sanctions/retaliation, and a long-term security headache the US doesn’t need.

And the deeper issue is credibility. The dollar’s reserve status and US financial leverage rest on the assumption that the US is broadly predictable and rule-bound. When you start treating allies like extractive targets, you’re not “winning” you’re encouraging everyone to build workarounds. Part of the postwar setup was that Europe outsourced a lot of hard security while the US underwrote the system; if the US turns that security guarantee into leverage against allies, you should expect Europe to reprice the relationship and invest accordingly.

The least-bad outcome is a face-saving off-ramp and dropping the whole line of inquiry. Nothing good comes from keeping it on the table.

oliwarner•13m ago
The US has some grace here as most of the negative feelings towards it dies with it's government.

You're going to pick better next time, right?

Eddy_Viscosity2•1m ago
Except that everyone can see that the US is capable of putting this kind of government into power, and could do so again and again.
EastLondonCoder•1m ago
Not American. Also: reputational damage isn’t a skin that sheds when a government changes; allies and markets adapt structurally.
mooreds•1m ago
> It’s also lose-lose for the US.

Yes. Ian Bremmer keeps pointing out that if the "law of the jungle" becomes the norm for relations between countries, the USA will not benefit as much as autocracies like China and Russia.

See https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TLhz6ZbrMuI for a more full-throated explanation from Ian.

duxup•26m ago
Why even make a deal with the US now if Trump just changes his mind like some senile old man?
Ancalagon•13m ago
Goodness look at all the dead threads in here. Am I smelling bot activity?
orwin•7m ago
Looks like Chamberlain is refusing the Sudetenland annexation. At least for the moment.