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DeGoogled Phones, Made in Europe

https://tuta.com/blog/degoogled-phones
6•jruohonen•1h ago

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jruohonen•1h ago
Of course, the insanity here is that European governments, banks, and even the EU enforce the duopoly and thus harm themselves and European business.

Ref., e.g.:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44704645

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45742488

https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/to-buy-or-not-to-buy-that-is-...

palata•49m ago
> These up and coming phone producers can partly also be used with the standard Android OS – but note that this is developed by Google – or can be ordered with a deGoogled OS such as Volla OS, /e/OS by Murena, or SailfishOS.

This sounds confusing to me. I don't know the other two, but /e/OS is based on LineageOS which is based on AOSP, which is developed by Google. And /e/OS uses microG, which is an open source implementation of the Play Services, but it means that it sends Play requests to Play servers, I think?

In this matter, I think it's important to not do the equivalent of "greenwashing". Not saying that it is not a good idea to go with those alternatives, just saying that "those are independent from Google" is misleading.

It's very difficult to not rely on US services today, that's a fact. I think what matters is to try and support European (or non-US, depends on what you want) companies or projects. Using a European email service instead of GMail could be another idea. Or trying to use a European search engine like Qwant, etc.

jruohonen•46m ago
> It's very difficult to not rely on US services today, that's a fact. I think what matters is to try and support European...

That's exactly my point but now the European decision-makers are actively preventing that for European citizens and consumers. And that's rich.

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