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US Places Arctic Airborne Troops on Standby as Greenland Dispute Escalates

https://www.thedefensenews.com/news-details/Pentagon-Places-1500-Arctic-Trained-Airborne-Troops-on-Standby-as-Greenland-Dispute-Escalates/
87•palata•1h ago

Comments

rayiner•1h ago
Why even have an arctic airborne division if we’re not going to use it?
nick_•1h ago
/s?
Jtsummers•1h ago
Same reason we have nukes and don't use them: To be prepared if we need to, not to be the belligerent morons that tear everything down.
fhdkweig•58m ago
I think he was paraphrasing an earlier Trump quote of "Why have all these nukes if we aren't going to use them?"

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-n...

rayiner•44m ago
I’m just pointing out that an “arctic” division seems like a very small niche. Where else could we possibly use them?
dvfjsdhgfv•18m ago
Probably Alaska.
fhdkweig•10m ago
In any other presidency, it would be Russia. We had a cold war with them for 40+ years with anticipations that a hot war could start at literally any moment (see the fictional film Red Dawn). But, I don't think that Trump would invade Russia. His priorities are vastly different from any other president, Democrat or Republican.
blurbleblurble•1h ago
No politics please ;p
quietsegfault•1h ago
agree. Plenty of places to talk about this. There is no tech or startup angle for this.
superb_dev•1h ago
Here’s your angle: It’ll be harder to build your startup if we descend into the next world war
CalRobert•59m ago
Not to mention that plenty of people (myself included) work in Europe for US startups and having a war break out between the US and Europe could threaten that arrangement.
Esophagus4•57m ago
But if we play six degrees of separation, everything is tech related.

I flagged this. There are a million places on the internet talking about it: Twitter, news outlets, Instagram… even my loony relatives have all weighed in on Facebook.

No need to add this forum to that list of places talking politics - it’s against the guidelines for HN anyway.

scelerat•1h ago
The implications of the ongoing ruptures to the global political and economic order are significant. Tech is both influencing and influenced by these changes.
nick_•1h ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#:~:text=Tha...
tlocke•1h ago
I'd have thought there are many tech angles. For example, in a possible Greenland invasion, what are the implications of the US having control of dominant platforms such as Windows, Android and Apple? Not to mention all the dominant cloud platforms.
mikewarot•57m ago
>There is no tech or startup angle for this.

The devaluation of the US Dollar that is likely outcome of this will disrupt our supply chains leading to chaos. I expect 80% or worse.

Also, this will drive interest rates through the roof, drying up funding.

Even if you're not interested in politics, it's interested in you.

II2II•45m ago
Look for opportunities then?

The early days of Silicon Valley were literally the product of defense contracts and defense research spending. The whole consumer and business products thing (hardware or software) came much later. Even the early days business computing, the days of mainframes and minis, were largely driven by east coast companies.

iFire•1h ago
Is that politics in the sense of conservatism please keep the world as it was when I was a kid or politics in the sense of this should happen or it's a joke?
blurbleblurble•1h ago
I'm making a joke about how aggressive the flag mobs have gotten, of all political stripes

Yes it's a bad joke

yodon•1h ago
>I'm making a joke about...

Probably a good time to read up again on Poe's Law[0], which does always pertain to attempted sarcasm in online forums.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

atoav•1h ago
Ignoring politics is like ignoring a frying pan that is on fire. You can do it for a while if it makes you comfortable and who knows maybe you're even lucky and someone else deals with it, but ultimaty it will burn down your house if you ignore it.
davidw•1h ago
Are the troops going to be deployed to oppress and maybe even kill Americans in one of our cities, or our allies? Who knows!

I for one am tired of 'interesting times'.

cdrnsf•1h ago
They're already shooting mothers in the face and using flashbangs on 6 months old so, yes, it seems quite likely.
3eb7988a1663•1h ago
Ignoring the terrible world order destroying implications of this, I do have a question.

Being assigned to the "premier Arctic and cold-weather formation" sounds like the worst possible posting a young soldier could get. Is this drawing the shortest straw, or do people have any flexibility in getting deployed here? For something so remote/frigid/generally terrible, do you get shorter rotations?

forshaper•1h ago
I requested it and did not get it, for whatever that's worth.
3eb7988a1663•1h ago
What was the appeal? Were there favorable career implications? Or you personally found the environment would agree with you?
CalRobert•1h ago
For what it's worth, there was a period in my youth where something like this would've been up my alley. To each their own...
CGMthrowaway•1h ago
1000%. The Alaska lifestyle has been aspirational for 100 years. "Deadliest Catch" and other shows brought that notion to the masses. Alaska has the single best fishing, hunting, skiing, climbing in the Western Hemisphere. And (like salmon canning and crab fishing) great economic opportunity for hard workers - think of the roughnecks from Landman. But people seem to have already forgotten. Now we get "Life Below Zero" which is .... a little more on the edge to be kind
normie3000•1h ago
A lot of people in the armed forces want to prove that they're tough. Training for harsh conditions is one aspect of that.

Others join to broaden their horizons and see the world. This unit would check that box too.

Personally I'd love to go to the Arctic or Antarctic as a civilian as it would be an interesting challenge.

CGMthrowaway•1h ago
> A lot of people in the armed forces want to prove that they're tough

And for that I am grateful

Esophagus4•1h ago
> Personally I'd love to go to the Arctic or Antarctic as a civilian as it would be an interesting challenge.

This is actually possible! Friends of friends have done it (with NSF I believe).

Research expeditions to the arctic sometimes take civilians as support (janitors, IT, cooks, medics, etc). It can be a cool way to spend a few months aboard a boat in the arctic.

https://betterhumans.pub/how-to-join-a-scientific-expedition...

https://science.nasa.gov/citizen-science/fjord-phyto/

https://news.airbnb.com/wanted-five-volunteers-to-join-scien...

CGMthrowaway•1h ago
No. Alaska is a three year tour. If you are an outdoorsman or a skier though, JBER (Anchorage) can be a dream post. Garrison life is pretty relaxed when you're not in the field. And you get all the latest best cold-weather gear.
pseudony•1h ago
If you compare them to Finnish or Norse arctic troops and if it ever came to combat, yes, this isn’t the place a US soldier would want to be.

(Hehe, ow, sowwie about triggering someone’s feelings. Fun to see that jingoism should have safe spaces even as the same electorate railed against it on college campuses).

jcranmer•56m ago
You do have some influence in where you get posted, but that is mediated by several factors including most importantly how desirable a posting is.

While I'm not certain of how desirable an Arctic posting is, I do know that Antarctic postings are heavily oversubscribed (more demand than spots available), and I rather suspect that the Arctic stuff is in the same boat. It's not like there's a huge amount of spots that need to be filled, so even if getting an "Arctic soldier" tab appeals to only like 1% of the soldiers, well, that's enough to fill all the slots.

m_a_g•1h ago
I love the new world axes: USA and Russia vs. EU, China, and LATAM

What kind of shitty plotline is this? I swear, Call of Duty games were more realistic.

jimnotgym•1h ago
And this is why NATO ends is it, because Mr Orange didn't get his medal?

Time is running out, his private storm troops are already flooding the cities of the opposition.

chasd00•1h ago
This is a really bad article, they're on standby for Minnesota and not Greenland. Even the article mentions this and downplays Greenland repeatedly while still trying to plant that seed to keep the user scrolling through the ads.

"The selection of the 11th Airborne Division has immediately drawn scrutiny. Reconstituted and reoriented in recent years, the division is widely regarded as the Army’s premier Arctic and cold-weather formation, optimized for sub-zero operations, austere airfields, glacier movement, and high-latitude logistics.

Military planners note that for domestic crowd-control or security missions in the Midwest, National Guard units or conventional active-duty formations are typically preferred. “This is an Arctic hammer being readied for an urban nail,” said a retired logistics officer familiar with force-generation planning. “That mismatch is what’s raising eyebrows.”"

it's about to get really effing cold in Minnesota.

Just another click/rage bait article...

jghn•1h ago
> they're on standby for Minnesota and not Greenland

You say this like it's better?

lawn•1h ago
For the rest of the world, yes.

I feel bad for the people in Minnesota though.

chasd00•1h ago
No, i'm saying that because the article wants to paint a picture of the US Army mobilizing to invade Greenland but that's not what's happening.

FTFA> "Adding to the unease are unconfirmed reports of increased Special Operations Forces activity linked to Arctic training and reconnaissance."

Narrator> it's Winter in the US..

jpkw•1h ago
Deploying troops to Greenland right now would be solely aimed at seizing Greenland by force and would be a major international incident against the US's most important military allies. Deploying troops to Minnesota would be a domestic show of force that would have minimal impact, as they are incapable of seizing Minnesota for the US as it is already a US territory, so they would be used to guard public buildings (and would basically just sit around doing nothing all day).
dvfjsdhgfv•21m ago
> and would basically just sit around doing nothing all day

This is what everybody hopes for, myself included.

formerly_proven•1h ago
Is “president is readying capital-M Military troops for domestic deployment in opposition cities” supposed to be better?
chasd00•1h ago
No it would not be better, it would be a disaster. The Army (and especially Marines) are trained to the point of muscle memory to respond to aggression with overwhelming deadly force. It's not a good idea to task them with handling protestors like it's not a good idea to task a trained fighting dog to play at a dog park.
jpkw•59m ago
Come on now, by this logic marines should not be allowed to live in the US at all as they couldn't be trusted to go out in public without strangling someone for doing something that they deem a potential threat.
bee_rider•1h ago
The headline does seem unnecessarily alarmist. The article itself is about the speculation that it is more than just a coincidence. It is very upfront about that fact.

If the article isn’t booted from this site for being too political, it would probably be beneficial to edit the headline somewhat, to note that it is speculation.

einpoklum•1h ago
"Greenland dispute"? That's like saying a gang boss has a "dispute" with a store he's trying to take over.

Although, to be fair, the Trump administration might 'just' be planning a military occupation of some of Minnesota.

b112•1h ago
You Americans need to stop electing senile old crazy men to office.
TrackerFF•1h ago
If anything, I think the tariffs are signaling Trump meeting resistance from the military.

One thing is for sure: If Trump for whatever reason manages to attack Greenland, there will be some signals beforehand. Like moving any and all US personnel currently in Denmark, out of Denmark. There's a good chance US personnel in neighboring countries would also need to be moved out, like in Norway.

A military attack on Greenland would send the US and Europe into a geopolitical crisis.

wyldfire•1h ago
If he loses Learning Resources, Inc. v. Trump (the Tariffs case in front of SCOTUS) then he has no power with which to negotiate. Because, as you suggest, his military is unwilling to execute the unlawful orders to seek conquest without a declaration of war.

So that might indicate some of the apparent urgency to make this happen now before SCOTUS rules.

Unfortunately a lot of damage is already done, even if we walk it all back our allies will no longer trust us - nor should they.

CGMthrowaway•1h ago
He still has Sec 232
dvfjsdhgfv•18m ago
> moving any and all US personnel currently in Denmark, out of Denmark

Why? I mean, if this was another president and another scenario, I'd agree. But I can very well imagine Trump taking Greenland by force and at the same time leaving all American units in Europe as they are.

cdrnsf•1h ago
The irony of Make America Great Again speed running the exact opposite.
kccoder•47m ago
More often than not the opposite of what Trump says is closer to the truth.
rayiner•38m ago
I can think of many objections to taking over Greenland. But you have to admit it would be an objective win for America in terms of increasing its own resources. Or do you think there’s nothing down there?
surgical_fire•29m ago
At the expense of alliance and trade with the whole of EU? And damaged relations for the foreseeable future?

I am not from the US. If I was I wouldn't be very thrilled for it, no.

dvfjsdhgfv•25m ago
Not just the EU. The USA has no more allies and is not perceived as a reliable partner at any level. Sure, officially they will shake hands and say whatever is needed but in the meantime new partnerships are being created because in this chaotic world stability has a big value.
surgical_fire•11m ago
Yes, and I am fine with that.

I live in the EU, and I think it will actually be very positive in the medium to long term that the EU sheds its dependency on the US and starts treating it for what it is - a hostile foreign nation.

The Mercosur trade agreement, for example, is something great that came out of this. Trump finally pushed the EU to look for good partnerships elsewhere.

So, in a sense, this whole bullshit with Greenland may have positive outcomes still. I am hoping that the EU uses the anti-coercion instrument against the US and their companies.

londons_explore•1h ago
Quite a few wars have happened because country A invades B and assumes that country C won't intervene since it makes no economic sense to do so...
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