That's why the ownership class fights so hard against them.
Unions prevent you from negotiating your own terms, keep talented people from raising to new levels, and prevent the removal of people who should have been fired long ago.
And the people "who should've been fired long ago" are also people who have lives and families and other obligations that make protections against arbitrarily firing someone a social good. Because unions force employers to fire people on the basis of quality of work and conduct (or economic concerns) rather than arbitrary personal preference and bias, your hard work is more likely to be noticed.
I live in one of the most heavily unionized places on earth in Scandinavia and have worked on both sides, as manager and as an employee, and if someone causes a legitimate problem, you can 100% fire them. You just have to do your due diligence and prove your case about the worker in question. The only thing is, if they have worked for a long time and you need to do a round of layoffs, the people who have worked the longest will not be the first to be fired. This helps protect against companies using layoffs to fire expensive employees and replacing them with cheaper newer hires.
In short, "individual negotiation" is basically saying the boss gets to decide.
Unions are frequently corrupt… arbitrary rules… no reason for a union; software development is not commodity labor.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46006351
Actor’s guild evolved into gatekeeping and rent-seeking… We really don’t want that in tech… Unions don’t stop layoffs… would hold high performers back.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34871573
A union is effectively a monopoly on labor supply… with all the same ramifications that a corporate monopoly has
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38070098
Not even convinced unions are a net good… (example: protesting automation)… unions obstructing progress.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42992992
Mixed bag… often lead to abuse, stagnation and corruption… difficult to fire non-performers… stewards padding pockets…
johnnyanmac•1h ago