Except that there are still a lot of assembly programmers.
And even more C/C++ programmers.
It's also likely that C/C++ programmers didn't become Python programmers but that people who wouldn't have otherwise been programmers became Python programmers.
> At the well-specified end, you have tasks where the inputs are clean, the desired output is clear, and success criteria are obvious: processing a standard form, writing code to a precise spec, translating a document, summarising a report. LLMs are excellent at this
Yeah
> At the ambiguous end, you have tasks where the context is messy, the right approach isn’t obvious, and success depends on knowledge that isn’t written down anywhere
Sounds like most programming
Almost all of the programming I've ever done.
> I’m arguing that the most likely outcome is something like “computers” or “the internet” rather than “the end of employment as we know it.”
Yeah
The number of programmers has changed so much, from ~zero in the 1940s to tens of thousands in the sixties, to, what, maybe 30 million today? While most programmers worked a little or a lot in ASM from invention until the 1980s, it's a very specialized role today.
I do not believe that 'roughly similar numbers of people were employed writing' ASM, C, and Python except for the instant that C outpaced ASM in the seventies and when Python outpaced ASM somewhere around the millennium.
Probably at no time were ASM, C, and Python programmers even close to similarly numerous.
This isn't a new take. The problem is, "boring" doesn't warrant the massive bet the market has made on it, so this argument is essentially "AI is worthless" to someone significantly invested.
It's not so much that people aren't making this argument, it's that it's being tossed immediately into the "stochastic parrot" bunch.
That's just simply not true.
It has become difficult to grade students using anything other than in-person pen and paper assessments, because AI cheating is rampant and hard to detect. It is particularly bad for introductory-level courses; the simpler the material the hardest it is to make it AI-proof.
pedalpete•1h ago
The things that most people ignore when thinking about AI and health is that 2/3rds of Americans are suffer from chronic illness and there is a shortage of doctors. Could AI really do much worse than the status quo? Doctors won't be replaced, but if we could move them up the stack of health to actually doing the work of saving lives rather than just looking at rising cholesterol numbers and writing scripts?
JohnFen•1h ago
I don't have a primary care physician because in the area I live in, there are no doctors that I can find that are taking new patients.
Regardless, I wouldn't want any of my medical data exposed to an AI system even if that was the only way to get health care. I simply don't trust them enough for that (and HIPAA isn't strong enough to make me more comfortable).
nephihaha•53m ago
My friend died last weekend from cancer. Human support/contact was very important to her. AI can't do that.
JohnFen•36m ago
Zigurd•30m ago
ceejayoz•20m ago
(Doctors will, for example, still tend to type plenty during an appointment in, say, the English NHS.)
onemoresoop•19m ago
JohnFen•19m ago
nhinck2•48m ago
AI could allow the whole system to kick the can down the road.
Zigurd•33m ago
ceejayoz•39m ago
Yes? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician%27s_syllogism
Quarrelsome•26m ago
> you're undiagnosed? I thought it was obvious.
guess I was the last to clock it.
It was people that made me think of it first: a hookup that was adament I had it and then a therapist that mentioned in our first session. I started the diagnosis like over a year ago and completely forgot about it. Its only been asking gipity about some symptoms I have and seeing it throw up ADHD a lot as a possibility, that encouraged me to go back to sorting out the diagnosis.
galleywest200•24m ago
> Doctors won't be replaced, but if we could move them up the stack of health to actually doing the work of saving lives rather than just looking at rising cholesterol numbers and writing scripts
I presume your AI assistant did not prescribe medication to you.
Quarrelsome•21m ago
ceejayoz•22m ago
We don’t have enough info to determine whether such anecdotes translate to widespread benefit or surprising consequences.
Quarrelsome•20m ago
ceejayoz•18m ago
toomuchtodo•14m ago
We should fix the shortage of healthcare practitioners, not hand folks a fancy search engine and say "problem solved." Would you put forth "Google your symptoms" as a solution to this same problem? The token output is fancy, the confidence in accuracy is similar.