No sure thing an that.
Because they enter homes that could become to either US citizen or people legally in the US? Do illegals (and that is an honest question) benefit from constitutional rights?
> So their solution is to just skip all that and deport immediately, with or without probable cause.
Do they deport US citizens? Out of the 600 000 that they already deported, how many are US citizens? How many are people who were legally in the US?
Once again, and it's an honest question, legally what's the "probably cause" needed to deport someone who was illegally in the US?
And, lastly, where was the outrage here on HN when, in 2015, Obama awarded a Presidential Rank Award to Tom Homan (the same Tom Homan) for how he handled the millions (!) of deportations under Obama? I mean: were the methods different? Did the 3 millions+ persons deported under Obama get a trial?
By now under Trump only 20% of the number of illegals that Obama deported have been deported. I'm not saying Trump won't surpass Obama's score but... Obama was the posterchild of the dems: so where's the outrage? Apparently Tom Homan learned under Obama.
Generally, yes. There are rights that are protected only for citizens (e.g., voting rights), but most Constitutional rights restrain what the government can do to people, an are not keyed to citizenship, or to residency status. It is particularly important that due process rights are not keyed to status, because otherwise simply by presuming a status that is not entitled to due process, the government could absolve themselves of the requirement to prove that you actually had the status in question, and proceed directly to the sanctions associated with the status.
> And, lastly, where was the outrage here on HN when, in 2015, Obama awarded a Presidential Rank Award to Tom Homan (the same Tom Homan) for how he handled the millions (!) of deportations under Obama?
The deportations under Obama were manifestly handled differently than under Trump, so one could very consistently object to the latter and not object, or not object as strenuously, to the former.
> By now under Trump only 20% of the number of illegals that Obama deported have been deported.
The main objections have never been to the number of people lawfully subject to deportation who have been deported.
Hopefully you will receive an education someday, and, for your sake, hopefully not in the form of a petard hoist.
I don’t remember any evidence of unconstitutional raids, or illegal detainment of citizens, or outright murder of Americans in the streets under Obama. It’s not about the numbers. It’s the purposeful violation of our laws and the addiction to violence we are seeing among ICE agents.
Someone should remind them what’s waiting on the other side as they break down citizens’ doors, abduct shoeless seniors and children in freezing weather, terrorize schools and churches, blind incapacitated protesters with pepper spray, and shoot observers in the head. All with a smirk on their concealed faces.
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Immigration officers assert sweeping power to enter homes without a judge’s warrant, memo says