I'd recommend him to go for oil paintings.
CW: Have you ever been in an eating contest?
GG: Yeah, a long long time ago. I did a mashed potato eating contest at a renaissance fair back in Georgia.Your stereotypes do not emcompass all of the world.
Granger's protest was properly executed as you slash the tires of the oil trucks and oil execs - you strike the people peddling what you are protesting. So of course Dwyer is trying to downplay the significance.
Aside from that, I don't think this "protest" will result in anything more than maybe some increased security (and maybe more arrests if he inspires others to do similar).
> CW: Do you consider what you did protest, performance art, both, or something else?
> GG: Both. It’s a protest against the school’s AI policy specifically and it’s performance art because I needed something that would elicit a reaction. So this could reach more people.
Not everything has to be a global battle for all the marbles. Sometimes you're just pissed off that your school has a stupid policy and the administration won't listen to you. No better way to change that than make the news (aside from maybe going after donors).
Perhaps it did, although not in favor of what he's seeking.
A protest doesn't need to be perfect and it shouldn't convince everyone who sees it in one shot. A protest that causes outrage is much more effective at reaching whoever it needs to reach.
Maybe I'm giving more credit than is due, but my mind went to an inverted kind of echo of Cloaca... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca_(art_installation)
> Shadow Searching: ChatGPT psychosis is a body of work made in collaboration with artificial intelligence which depicts a co-op between a human artist and AI that started as a thought experiment to produce a perfect partner based on one’s Jungian shadow. In the process of this goal a compounding relationship formed with the ai chat bot via recursive mirroring. The work explores identity, character narrative creation and crafting false memories of relationships in an interactive role digitally crafted before, during and after a state of AI psychosis. This highlights and embodies a growing trend that can be dangerous or unpredictable which you are not immune to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWy4UP-ti1s
The execution honestly doesn't impress me much--remember Loab? I would've loved to see the generic pretty girls devolve into something like that, lol--but I think AI psychosis and AI "companions" are relevant and potentially rich topics to explore. I respect it more than that "Théâtre D'opéra Spatial" piece that made a splash a few years back.
> He initially wanted to press charges because Granger’s act “violates the sanctity of the gallery,” but changed his mind
> Left: Graham Granger after his arraignment outside the court building
I was beginning to think "pressing charges" was a myth (popularised by TV shows like Law & Order) and this article didn't exactly change my mind about that.
Do US state attorneys actually give two shits about what the victim wants? Is it someone's job to read an email inbox and systematically approve/reject citizens' pressed charges? Do they even pretend to?
Also, government attorneys can be elected officials. Spending time achieving nothing against a bunch of uncooperative screwball artists isn't going to be something to brag about on the campaign trail.
GG: I don’t really use it period. I miss the Wikipedia blurbs being at the top of webpages. If I’m looking up a simple math fact that I don’t know—like what the weight of something is—I’ll look at the AI summary, but I never, almost never, hit the expand button.
And the thieves sit in Davos, together with representatives of a party that wants to steal IP, Greenland, Venezuela and many other things.
And the press appeases the thieves instead of asking about the murder of Suchir Balaji.
Yes because stealing illegal items (if you believe AI generated imagery should be illegal) is still illegal
Something something, "it's arrested development"
When the color printer was mass produced, you could print the Mona Lisa and artists had similar protests. Arguably, this started the entire abstract and surrealist movement where things like a urinal became art simply because you couldn't print it out.
I don't want art to be about how much someone suffered to make it. However, part of my appreciation is the artist, and AI art is lower on my appreciation than hand created paintings. I think the solution is to increase awareness of art appreciation instead of empowering ignorant and violent demonstrations.
Is AI art really a threat? Is it really like a nuclear bomb? I don't think so, and the only people benefitting from this are the gatekeepers who will inevitably sell the solution to whatever the public thinks is ethical AI.
I'm more interested in an AI Art Exhibit eating a Student
krustyburger•2w ago
What an impulsive fellow.
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LinuxAmbulance•2w ago
It also has by far some of the absolute worst art pieces I've seen in my life - in person, or otherwise. One of them was literally a pile of trash.
I used to think that art shouldn't have any gatekeepers, but I've begun to wonder if maybe it should.
jackyinger•2w ago
Plus, if these were really AI creations new copies can be printed. Unless the human “co-creator” did something like paint on the work after printing, not much has been damaged.
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publicdebates•2w ago
He didn't even will. Why did he encourage others to? Misguided etiquette.
numpad0•2w ago
And it's not even like software engineers are special in that regard. Everyone here is quick to spot and express their opinions on use of AI in articles and everyone seem to like to have their words on rampant vibecoded pull requests.
Freedom of thought and speech means you're free to expect people to thank you for spitting on them, and also that nobody else than you would be responsible for that insanity of yours.
ronsor•2w ago
This is more conditioning from moral panic mobs than an innate trait. One could also say that TV makes humans angry and violent, or we could simply stop watching cable news.
lbrito•2w ago
It does
Anderson and Bushman (2002) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11440811_The_Effect... Evidence is steadily accumulating that prolonged exposure to violent TV programming during childhood is associated with subsequent aggression.
Paik, H., & Comstock, G. (1994). The effects of television violence on antisocial behavior: A meta-analysis. Communication Research, 21(4), 516–546. https://doi.org/10.1177/009365094021004004 Results showed positive and significant correlation between TV violence and aggressive behavior
Ironically I used Gemini to look those up. Being a social studies thing, of course there is no absolute proof of this, there are many caveats and ways of looking etc.
Tangential - "find meta-analysis to back up my point" is ridiculously easy with AI, and it can be used on both sides. I could just as easily negate the ask and get compelling results.
I would hate having to write a dissertation right now.
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lbrito•2w ago
Or putting it more charitably, some people seem to be more vulnerable, for whatever reason, to multiple different kinds of mental breakdowns (like the psychosis described by the "artist" "victimized" by this "crime").
While I personally don't get it (how some people are so entranced by AI as to have mental breakdowns), it does seem to be a thing, with some catastrophic results[1]. Granted in some cases the persons involved had prior serious mental health issues, that seems not to always be the case. In other words, be it not for AI, those people could reasonably have expected to live normal lives.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_linked_to_chatbots
numpad0•2w ago
But nearly every single implementation of generative AI data generators appear to exhibit this behavior, with Google Nano Banana(tm) implementation as potential sole exception or lesser offender. Something in it is rage and/or derangement coded, NOT in artistic way that rock or metal music recordings are. Maybe this was what supposed "toxicity" of LLMs discussed heavily as chatbots rolled out remedied by extreme sycophancy to the point that LLMs don't literally flip out people and drive them into state of psychosis. But whatever it is, it's insane that everyone supportive of AI is tone deaf on a phenomenon that obvious, reproducible, and widespread.
All it takes to turn anyone into anti-AI Luddite is to show them a piece of text, image, code, any data that they are familiar with. That's not a simple moral panic.
user205738•2w ago
The reason is that they don't read articles critical of AI, and they don't even know about the existence of forums like reddit, for example.
hulitu•2w ago
yes. It does.