In Europe, Wind and Solar Overtake Fossil Fuels

https://e360.yale.edu/digest/europe-wind-solar-fossil-fuels

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mekdoonggi•29m ago

Curious if this will eventually change China's calculus with regards to Russia. If Europe is a big customer for Chinese exports, and Russia is antagonizing, it seems like China would have an incentive to put pressure on Russia.

It already seems like Russia is positioned to be completely subservient to China in the future.

mschuster91•18m ago

> If Europe is a big customer for Chinese exports, and Russia is antagonizing, it seems like China would have an incentive to put pressure on Russia.

China wants Russia to at least keep the Ukraine war going, if not eventually win the darn thing. Russia winning (or getting away with an armistice that lets them keep Crimea and Donbas) means a precedence China has for a land-grab of its own - obviously Taiwan, but other countries in its "sphere of influence" have seen hostilities for years, from land grabs [1] to overfishing [2], not to mention the border dispute with India.

And as long as we are distracted with Israel/Palestine or Ukraine/Russia, China has free rein to do whatever they want.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_So...

[2] https://nationalinterest.org/blog/energy-world/chinas-overfi...

mekdoonggi•9m ago

That makes sense, but if that's the case, why aren't they invading Taiwan now? Wouldn't now be the perfect time?

munk-a•16m ago

China is happy as a clam that Russia is self-isolating and destroying their internal economy. The natural resources of Russia are vast and if China is the only one exploiting them and funneling them into the Chinese economy it'd be an excellent outcome. I don't think China is opposed to strong economies as trade partners but dependent economies are much easier to control and monopolize.

raincole•8m ago

If Europe were a big customer for Russia energy, it seems like Russia would have an incentive to not antagonize it.

Oh, see how well it went.

testing22321•17m ago

Solar prices in the US are criminal, protecting oil and gas who bought all the politicians.

Canada here. 7.6kw on our roof for $0 out of pocket thanks to $5k grant and $8k interest free loan.

It makes 7.72Mwh per year, worth $1000. Tight valley, tons of snow. We put that on the loan for 8 years, then get $1000 per year free money for 20 years or so. Biggest no brainer of all time.

Dad in Victoria Australia just got 10.6kw fully installed and operational for $4000 AUD. ($2,700 USD)

Australia has so much electricity during the day they’re talking about making I free for everyone in the middle of the day.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-03/energy-retailers-offe...

jacquesm•14m ago

And that's $1000 per year at today's energy prices, which surely will go up over time.

testing22321•8m ago

They’re already locked in approved to go up at least 6% a year here. It just went up 16% this year for people out of town.

njarboe•6m ago

One could hope with improving tech and decreasing regulations we could have decreasing (nominal) energy prices in the future. That would be progress.

munk-a•12m ago

And that on-roof-solar helps (as it becomes widespread) mitigate the growing need for additional grid capacity. Canada is a big country and, outside the major cities, upgrading grid capacity is quite expensive per capita. It's a win-win in Canada, investing in self-sufficiency while reducing the maintenance burden of infrastructure.

flexie•15m ago

But Trump explained to us yesterday, how wind and solar is for losers. Surely, we should be looking in to how we can transition back to fossils.

nxm•3m ago

At the end of the day, the retail cost of electricity in many EU member countries can be two to three times the cost of electricity in the US. Ultimately that’s what matters to consumers and businesses.

jhrmnn•6m ago

Now, let's aim at total energy consumption, not just electricity generation.

spants•3m ago

The UK has some of the highest energy costs in the world due to the stupid Net Zero taxes. Our economy and manufacturing is suffering.

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