They are the worst of all companies to join [0] and always have tight profit margins every year, meaning they need to find ways to eventually increase that and have to lay off at least 10,000+ employees out of necessity on top of the constant politicking just for that promotion to survive the next layoff.
They are about to cut another 14K+ employees because they can [1] and want 30,000 jobs cut in total (For comparison, that is 6x OpenAI, 0.95x of Nvidia and 0.38x of Meta employees) this year.
There's 1.6M+ of you joining a forever squid game to survive elimination when the company openly wants to replace their (warehouse) workers with robots AND the (corporate) rest with AI agents + humans, meaning an eventual reduction of human labor to increase their margins.
with regards to the squid game, what says this isn't going to happen to most of big tech or even other industries?
rvz•2w ago
Only a matter of time until "AGI".
46493168•2w ago
Because if you can make it at Amazon, you can make it anywhere. It has a brutal work culture, and if you can survive it long enough to claw your way into the FAANG inner circle, you might, might get breathing room at some point to live your life at another company that isn't as brutal.
If you're someone who comes from the American Hinterlands [0], i.e., not a born-and-bred Coastal Elite, this could be the difference between barely surviving and being able to help your extended family survive. If you can keep off the hedonic treadmill yourself.
> It has a brutal work culture, and if you can survive it long enough
After my first few years of experience, I specifically started filtering out companies which have people from Amazon in a leadership role. Their work culture is poison, and I'd rather not join than see myself become a zombie for the next couple of years. This has helped me stay sane in my career, but there still are some early scars that remain.
I explicitly do not believe that you can "make it anywhere" if you survive some brutal culture, and that surviving a few years in that place will bless you with the ability to "live life at another company". Why ruin my health and sanity when I can directly join that other company? This glorification of bad environments needs to stop.
46493168•2w ago
> Why ruin my health and sanity when I can directly join that other company?
Well, that’s just the idea. Some people can only get their start by joining Amazon and not the other company.
Also, I wouldn’t call Amazon’s environment “bad.” It suits some people for some amount of time, clearly, or they wouldn’t do it.
nebula8804•1w ago
Is there some documented writing on actual particulars as to why Amazon is so uniquely bad? Like is there any "Day/Week/Month in the life of a Amazon SWE"?
rvz•2w ago
They are the worst of all companies to join [0] and always have tight profit margins every year, meaning they need to find ways to eventually increase that and have to lay off at least 10,000+ employees out of necessity on top of the constant politicking just for that promotion to survive the next layoff.
They are about to cut another 14K+ employees because they can [1] and want 30,000 jobs cut in total (For comparison, that is 6x OpenAI, 0.95x of Nvidia and 0.38x of Meta employees) this year.
There's 1.6M+ of you joining a forever squid game to survive elimination when the company openly wants to replace their (warehouse) workers with robots AND the (corporate) rest with AI agents + humans, meaning an eventual reduction of human labor to increase their margins.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45774189
[1] https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/amazon-plans-...
r_lee•2w ago
rvz•2w ago
46493168•2w ago
If you're someone who comes from the American Hinterlands [0], i.e., not a born-and-bred Coastal Elite, this could be the difference between barely surviving and being able to help your extended family survive. If you can keep off the hedonic treadmill yourself.
[0] https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/H/bo28...
sometimes_all•2w ago
After my first few years of experience, I specifically started filtering out companies which have people from Amazon in a leadership role. Their work culture is poison, and I'd rather not join than see myself become a zombie for the next couple of years. This has helped me stay sane in my career, but there still are some early scars that remain.
I explicitly do not believe that you can "make it anywhere" if you survive some brutal culture, and that surviving a few years in that place will bless you with the ability to "live life at another company". Why ruin my health and sanity when I can directly join that other company? This glorification of bad environments needs to stop.
46493168•2w ago
Well, that’s just the idea. Some people can only get their start by joining Amazon and not the other company.
Also, I wouldn’t call Amazon’s environment “bad.” It suits some people for some amount of time, clearly, or they wouldn’t do it.
nebula8804•1w ago