It's a bit of a catch-22 that they keep shooting and lying about the people who are filming them shooting people to provide evidence that they lie about what happens.
Picking and choosing US big tech in this context is pointless, they're all as much of a risk as each other. And don't come with "you have to start somewhere", because you do, but then the place to start is slowly step-by-step getting off of the most critical ones, which are the first four I mentioned.
The truth is there's thousands if not tens of thousands of people on here for whom it is incredibly convenient to imagine their vests were granted in a completely different universe to the likes of Palantir. Deep down they know their companies realistically play an unfathomably bigger role in surveillance capatalism, crippling addictions, furthering of current US Party strongarming and a whole lot more. Exactly why many find it so cathartic to latch on to these threads and reinforce that cognitive dissonance.
I didn't even mention Meta who bring about as much harm in a day as Palantir wish it could do in a year - make no mistake, I'm not suggesting the latter is for a lack of trying. Although the idea that Zuck is somehow any more ethical than Thiel is of course hilarious.
But after all, you and me too are quite culpable in this moment, providing marketing and engagement for the platform behind Flock(YC S17). The exact source of all that data we're so angry about being loaded into the Palantir platforms.
I expect the author of the article must also recognize that Big Tech is in the same basket and are just as complicit for the sake of consistency. The problem is, we just don't hear about it often.
When I brought this up last time in [0] all I saw was constant hairsplitting, attempts to seperate Big Tech from Palantir and lots of 'whataboutism' accusations, which doesn't work because I agree.
So when I saw this in the article:
> Palantir’s tentacles are already extending into our communities. In my constituency of Coventry, the Labour-run council awarded the company a £500,000 contract to develop an AI tool for children’s services.
Google [1], Microsoft [2], Amazon [3] are no different and these are just a few of them and they are just as bad as Palantir and all of them are in the SNP 500 directly in the portfolios of pension funds.
So it is indeed a waste of time trying to picking and choose US tech companies on this.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46407683
[1] https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366634759/Google-wins-mu...
[2] https://www.digitalhealth.net/2023/06/nhs-signs-new-microsof...
[3] https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366566172/AWS-secures-89...
> When I brought this up last time in [0] all I saw was constant hairsplitting, attempts to seperate Big Tech from Palantir and lots of 'whataboutism' accusations
Another one I often see is the "but Peter Thiel" (as in a reply to my initial comment, but also in the threads you're talking about), as if other big tech CEOs such as Bezos and Zuckerberg have even one extra moral fiber in their body that puts them in a notably different category.
Do you happen to have a (semi-)public presence anywhere? It's hard to find people who understand this and are honest about it, and inherently harder than simply joining one of the bigger tribes, whether it's the HN "other big tech isn't nearly as bad" one, or the shoulder-shrugging crowd.
People usually choose big tech from a mix of CYA, sales pitches, preferences for known brands, and political reasons such as enabling surveillance.
(1) Europe has a fragmented market; linguistically, product wise (2) Silicon Valley is in the United States (3) The United States has a very large amount of capital to throw at companies (4) even if you managed to succeed in the EU your shares will most likely be bought out from under you if you raised capital (5) all of the above re-inforce each other over time
Once you have that kind of an advantage it is very hard to lose it.
https://european-alternatives.eu/category/cloud-computing-pl...
Could easily make such a list about Bezos et al too.
[0] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb... - FYI there are much better sources on this one, which put it beyond doubt that they knew they were the number one catalyst in an ethnic cleansing and gave absolutely zero shits.
[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/06/meta-reportedly-projected-10...
[2] https://www.reuters.com/investigations/meta-tolerates-rampan...
[3] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/01/facebook-...
[4] https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/09/meta-whistleblower-sarah-w...
And despite this company being creepy and weird and bizarre and secretive, they are also trying to make themselves a lifestyle brand by selling merchandise. If I felt like spending $150 for a Palantir-based hoodie, I guess I can normally do that [1], but disturbingly it is apparently "sold out". Apparently a lot of people really want to buy an overpriced sweater, or maybe they're trying to preemptively buy social credit.
Who knows. Everything is terrible.
I would be keen to know if citizen data is being handled correctly, following GDPR/LED.
Given previous Danish client-state-like cooperation with NSA to spy on other EU countries, I can imagine the answer.
Minority Report coming right up.
However, LED has some purpose limitations, which critics argue the Danish Law Enforcement Act has bypassed. Some are trying to challenge it.
[1] https://en.itu.dk/-/media/EN/Research/PhD-Programme/PhD-defe...
He preaches his views to his employees. No one in his flock seems to wonder what would happen if their tools were to be used against democracy.
Not everything is about money.
The points made while on drugs are worse than worthless they are dangerous to longterm survival and those who engage in this are deeply amoral. Most of humanity is basically glorified stoners, congratulating themselves on how high they get while their futures starve. The opinion of the retarded about the warden is always that he is evil.
Go, get yourself some access to a database collected from the seeing stones(aka cellphones) and write your own behavioural queries. Look at the damage and weep. Realize the best we can manage is stabilization in shitty conditions because the warmode species is to retarded. And then go on the web and listen to the blabber of the retarded. Fusion and mini reactors will save civilzation. Meanwhile they handed out proliferation "tracking nukes" aka lookalikes with gps) in every war since the coldwar and guess what the fanatics already have blown it up, several times. Thats why panopticon, thats why electric drugs (games), thats why scenario root hardening, including hardening against government tribalist retardation. Go buy yourself a hoodie. Oh, and its all good, we are going to mars.
Interesting, plausible, and yet something I have never heard of before despite believing myself relatively well-read. Do you have a source for this, even if it was an unverified leak?
Frankly, I think the fact that you're so willing to simp for a creepy billionaire and a creepy multi-billion dollar company so much as to call one of their shirts "absolutely killer" says a lot more about you than anything else.
If you are too lazy to Google all of that -- it's all fact, not conjecture -- here's one more thing:
"I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible". -Peter Theil, Palantir founder.
The big-4 would happily also do this. Deloitte, EY, KPMG and PwC Would take money to provide outlines and project management for an in-house, or an outsource to somebody other than Palantir. It wouldn't neccessarily be either cheaper, or faster, or for that matter any more socially acceptable.
I don't like the source, I could agree with the opinion (broken clock write 2x a day..) but to pretend government doesn't want what Palantir is selling is faux naieve and stupid.
What alternative is there, and why is "don't do it" viable?
This is "defund the police" wolf howling at the moon stuff.
https://www.intelligenceonline.com/europe-russia/2025/12/02/...
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