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Fedora Asahi Remix is now working on Apple M3

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:okydh7e54e2nok65kjxdklvd/post/3mdd55paffk2o
189•todsacerdoti•1h ago

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dralley•1h ago
Nice! Good to hear that progress is still being made, I know it was on pause for a bit as developers rotated out and there was an effort to get things upstreamed.
electronsoup•1h ago
oh awesome! I had assumed they were just targeting M1/M2 for the time being
zozbot234•1h ago
Does this include the newer M3 ultra? Huge news if true!
2OEH8eoCRo0•1h ago
Displayport alt mode? Thunderbolt?
greenimpala•1h ago
and ProMotion, then its a serious contender
volemo•41m ago
Dunno, I don’t care about ProMotion (I’ve got it and I don’t see it), but sleep and battery life are very important to me.
porkloin•21m ago
Are you sure you've actually used the higher refresh rate? It might not be enabled by default. I'd be surprised if you can't tell the difference comparing 60hz to 120hz back to back.
fainpul•1h ago
At least for M1 they got it working. Seems to be in testing phase now. Promised to come soon.

https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-asahi-linux-porting-linux-to-app...

michaelRostom•54m ago
From that video "Our goal is to make this [dp-altmode] generally available to all people sometime early in the next year [2026]"
gignico•42m ago
Is that display port over USB-C? That’s the main showstopper for me to use Asahi on my M1 Pro MBP.
ZiiS•10m ago
Yes, the test branch works fine for me, should be officially supported soon.
hamandcheese•1h ago
I wish it were possible to directly fund DP-alt mode support. It is the only thing remaining preventing me from adopting Asahi.
ZiiS•7m ago
For me https://github.com/AsahiLinux/linux/tree/fairydust installed and worked without any tweeks. Don't think you can direct funding, but https://opencollective.com/asahilinux contributes to getting this fully officially supported.
jsheard•1h ago
Does anyone know if M3 support is likely to lead to M4 or M5 support in relatively short order? AIUI M3 took a long time because it was a substantial departure from M1/M2, especially in the GPU architecture, but I don't know if M4 or M5 made similar leaps.
OGEnthusiast•1h ago
M4 is apparently even harder because of some new hardware-level page table protections.

Source from Asahi contributor: https://social.treehouse.systems/@sven/114278224116678776

eddyg•19m ago
Memory Integrity Enforcement, perhaps?

https://security.apple.com/blog/memory-integrity-enforcement...

zozbot234•1h ago
The M5 reportedly has a newer generation GPU compared to the M3/M4. For one thing, the GPU-side Neural Accelerators are obviously new to the M5 series. Other stuff is harder to know for sure until it gets looked into from a technical POV.
mananaysiempre•18m ago
It’s not like neural accelerators on non-Apple consumer hardware get much use on Linux, either, so that does not sound like much of a dealbreaker.
adgjlsfhk1•50m ago
The main reason M3 took a long time isn't related to m3 itself, but rather that the asahi project took on a ton of tech debt to get M1/M2 working. M3 wasn't too difficult, but before taking on the additional tech debt, the Asahi team focused on getting all of their changes upstreamed to the linux kernel.
tgtweak•35m ago
Prognosis is then that work for m4/m5 should be relatively straight line now that refactoring is done?
monocasa•15m ago
The main developer was also the target of a harassment campaign from a place that has pushed other targets to straight up suicide. That took almost all of their energy for the last year and they ended up quitting.
xattt•10m ago

   > The main developer was also the target of a harassment campaign from a place that has pushed other targets to straight up suicide.
Is this the Torvalds/Hector dispute that comes on the Google AI summary, or was this a three-letter agency type of harassment faced by Aaron Swartz?
internetter•1h ago
I would just like to point out that Michael Reeves (the poster, no relation to youtuber) is a high schooler who has also found numerous high impact vulnerabilities in Apple software. Immensely talented.
iknowstuff•53m ago
How many peaked with our curiosity and exploration software engineering as teenagers and subsequently got ground down by 9to5 corporate soul drain T_T
benoau•41m ago
Just take the top ticket, thanks.
preisschild•37m ago
Me. Got countless old servers as a teenager and self hosted as much as possible. Now I have enough money for new servers (well, besides memory...) but not enough time and energy.
fellowniusmonk•36m ago
I was born with heart defects and pre ACA had to be a wage slave to get health insurance.

The moment ACA happened I started several successful businesses.

Honestly we already should have contribution/impact based merit threshold UBI with a much lower barrier than research grants or even just time limited UBI systems for youth and adults that meet a contribution threshold.

VC allocation is too biased towards group think, profit motivation, predatory contracts and hold on to top many class and cultural artifacts.

Yes of course it would be difficult to implement but difficult isn't impossible and gradiated rollouts can help catch unintended side effects. We need to push more money into the hands of the intrinsically motivated. Society already is catering to the whims of consumers and feed zombies.

AndrewDucker•25m ago
Or you could have universal healthcare. Which everyone else seems to manage and would untie a lot of people from specific jobs.
fellowniusmonk•19m ago
I can't think of any credible reason not to have universal healthcare at this point.

Maybe 20 years ago but there is too much empirical data across multiple countries and environments now.

Assuming our cost for care drops commiserate to what's been seen in other countries we could use the saving to increase merit scholarships for the contributing young as a introductory form of UBI.

xeonmc•21m ago
If I get a nickel every time a high schooler with a decorated history of hardware tinkering goes on to work on Linux for Apple Silicon, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird they all happens to gravitate to Apple.
fragmede•10m ago
It's genuinely nice hardware, and everyone's gotta have a hobby. But it's not all of them. Geohot did some hardware stuff and hasn't (afaik) been working on Asahi. Linus was 21 when Linux was first released. Of course, Apple silicon ARM laptops didn't exist in the wild then, so we can let both of those pass.
drBonkers•1h ago
Can anyone point me to a good report of the current working status and known drawbacks of Asahi on Apple Silicon? Would there ever be a reason to run it on a Mac Mini or Apple desktop device? Or at that point would you just get a Linux box?
ncrmro•58m ago
I’ve managed to get NixOS running on an 8gb MacBook air which tools a bit of tweaks but asahi installer sets everything up where you can boot and install from NixOS
kreetx•55m ago
Could you expand/explain, you install Asahi first and then NixOS?
volemo•43m ago
Asahi includes a shell script that you run from macOS before installation to properly partition the storage (it’s quite involved). I guess, GP ran the script and then just booted from Nix ISO and installed to the new partition.
kreetx•56m ago
https://asahilinux.org/fedora/#device-support
dylan604•36m ago
> Or at that point would you just get a Linux box?

What exactly is a Linux box? If you're running Linux on an M3, is it not now a Linux box?

emodendroket•22m ago
Considering how far behind they are of new releases of hardware I'd imagine the most appealing use case is going to be trying to squeeze some more life out of outdated hardware that struggles running the latest Apple software. But that's kind of the sweet spot for a Linux desktop anyway, isn't it?
n0n0n4t0r•1h ago
According to Asahi's own documentation, they're far from done from the M3. So I guess "now working" is probably a bit misleading...

https://asahilinux.org/docs/platform/feature-support/m3/#tab...

michaelRostom•58m ago
I understand where you are coming from, I think the major hurdle was getting it boot and fixing M3 specific things. Now that it is working, they can port over their driver very easily (they might just work or need a small tweak)
n0n0n4t0r•54m ago
Thank you for the clarification!
zozbot234•48m ago
I'm not sure that this list is updated; this is breaking news, and documenting stuff takes longer than that.
umanwizard•35m ago
True. Nevertheless, the fact that it even boots, after many years of it not working at all, is huge news.
2OEH8eoCRo0•34m ago
One of my Asahi peeves is it keeps being trotted out as a real replacement only for users to find a lot of features aren't ready yet.
dtartarotti•30m ago
Promising progress, I'm excited to try it when they get more things working on M3 Pro
dangus•12m ago
Really cool, though if I was looking for a Linux laptop today, I’d be watching the Intel Panther Lake products rolling out.

The top SKU has a similar performance and efficiency profile to the base M5 processor along with faster graphics performance.

Review embargos for the top SKU just dropped today.

drcongo•11m ago
This is great news. If Apple ever get around to releasing actually pro M5 MBPs I'm buying one and turning this M1 MBP into a linux laptop.

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