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How AI Impacts Skill Formation

https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.20245
44•northfield27•1h ago

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kaelandt•47m ago
Nice to see an AI coding company allow such studies to come out, and it looks decently designed
jwr•47m ago
The title of this submission is misleading, that's not what they're saying. They said it doesn't show productivity gains for inexperienced developers still gaining knowledge.
visarga•40m ago
The study measures if participants learn the library, but what they should study is if they learn effective coding agent patterns to use the library well. Learning the library is not going to be what we need in the future.

> "We collect self-reported familiarity with AI coding tools, but we do not actually measure differences in prompting techniques."

Many people drive cars without being able to explain how cars work. Or use devices like that. Or interact with people who's thinking they can't explain. Society works like that, it is functional, does not work by full understanding. We need to develop the functional part not the full understanding part. We can write C without knowing the machine code.

You can often recognize a wrong note without being able to play the piece, spot a logical fallacy without being able to construct the valid argument yourself, catch a translation error with much less fluency than producing the translation would require. We need discriminative competence, not generative.

For years I maintained a library for formatting dates and numbers (prices, ints, ids, phones), it was a pile of regex but I maintained hundreds of test cases for each type of parsing. And as new edge cases appeared, I added them to my tests, and iterated to keep the score high. I don't fully understand my own library, it emerged by scar accumulation. I mean, yes I can explain any line, but why these regexes in this order is a data dependent explanation I don't have anymore, all my edits run in loop with tests and my PRs are sent only when the score is good.

Correctness was never grounded in understanding the implementation. Correctness was grounded in the test suite.

gjadi•5m ago
Interesting argument.

But isn't the corrections of those errors that are valuable to society and get us a job?

People can tell they found a bug or give a description about what they want from a software, yet it requires skills to fix the bugs and to build software. Though LLMs can speedup the process, expert human judgment is still required.

concats•39m ago
I agree. It's very missleading. Here's what the authors actually say:

> AI assistance produces significant productivity gains across professional domains, particularly for novice workers. Yet how this assistance affects the development of skills required to effectively supervise AI remains unclear. Novice workers who rely heavily on AI to complete unfamiliar tasks may compromise their own skill acquisition in the process. We conduct randomized experiments to study how developers gained mastery of a new asynchronous programming library with and without the assistance of AI. We find that AI use impairs conceptual understanding, code reading, and debugging abilities, without delivering significant efficiency gains on average. Participants who fully delegated coding tasks showed some productivity improvements, but at the cost of learning the library. We identify six distinct AI interaction patterns, three of which involve cognitive engagement and preserve learning outcomes even when participants receive AI assistance. Our findings suggest that AI-enhanced productivity is not a shortcut to competence and AI assistance should be carefully adopted into workflows to preserve skill formation -- particularly in safety-critical domains.

danbruc•23m ago
That itself sounds contradictory to me.

I assistance produces significant productivity gains across professional domains, particularly for novice workers.

We find that AI use impairs conceptual understanding, code reading, and debugging abilities, without delivering significant efficiency gains on average.

Are the two sentences talking about non-overlapping domains? Is there an important distinction between productivity and efficiency gains? Does one focus on novice users and one on experienced ones? Admittedly did not read the paper yet, might be clearer than the abstract.

omnicognate•39m ago
I agree the title should be changed, but as I commented on the dupe of this submission learning is not something that happens as a beginner, student or "junior" programmer and then stops. The job is learning, and after 25 years of doing it I learn more per day than ever.
emsign•20m ago
> They said it doesn't show productivity gains for inexperienced developers still gaining knowledge.

But that's what "impairs learning" means.

baalimago•45m ago
I've noticed this as well. I delegate to agentic coders on tasks I need to have done efficiently, which I could do myself and lack time to do. Or on tasks which are in areas I simply don't care much for, for languages which I don't like very much etc
simonw•41m ago
I wonder why these Anthropic researchers chose GPT-4o for their study.
simianwords•57s ago
This is really strange and warrants some skepticism
simonw•39m ago
Key snippet from the abstract:

> Novice workers who rely heavily on AI to complete unfamiliar tasks may compromise their own skill acquisition in the process. We conduct randomized experiments to study how developers gained mastery of a new asynchronous programming library with and without the assistance of AI. We find that AI use impairs conceptual understanding, code reading, and debugging abilities, without delivering significant efficiency gains on average.

The library in question was Python trio and the model they used was GPT-4o.

vessenes•38m ago
@dang the title here is bait. I’d suggest the paper title: “Anthropic: How AI Impacts Skill Formation”
grahamlee•38m ago
I’ve been making the case (e.g. https://youtu.be/uL8LiUu9M64?si=-XBHFMrz99VZsaAa [1]) that we have to be intentional about using AI to augment our skills, rather than outsourcing understanding: great to see Anthropic confirming that.

[1] plug: this is a video about the Patreon community I founded to do exactly that. Just want to make sure you’re aware that’s the pitch before you do ahead and watch.

comrade1234•29m ago
Often when I use it I know that there is a way to do something and I know that I could figure it out by going through some api documents and maybe finding some examples on the web... IOW I already have something in mind.

For example I wanted to add a rate-limiter to an api call with proper http codes, etc. I asked the ai (in IntelliJ it used to be Claude by default but they've since switched to Gemini as default) to generate one for me. The first version was not good so I asked it to do it again but with some changes.

What would take me a couple of hours or more took less than 10 minutes.

northfield27•20m ago
Edit: Changed title

Previous title: "Anthropic: AI Coding shows no productivity gains; impairs skill development"

The previous title oversimplified the claim to "all" developers. I found the previous title meaningful while submitting this post because most of the false AI claims of "software engineer is finished" has mostly affected junior `inexperienced` engineers. But I think `junior inexperienced` was implicit which many people didn't pick.

The paper makes a more nuanced claim that AI Coding speeds up work for inexperienced developers, leading to some productivity gains at the cost of actual skill development.

reedf1•15m ago
This is a fancy way of saying that if you invent the calculator, people get worse at sums. I'm not an AI doomer or a boomer - but it's clear to me that some skills will be permanently relegated to AI.
lionkor•14m ago
Yes, except the calculator is right 100% of the time. LLMs are right ??% of the time, where ?? constantly changes, changes with prompts, etc.
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