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Ask HN: How do you give AI agents access without over-permissioning?

5•NBenkovich•1h ago
To make AI agents more efficient, we need to build feedback loops with real systems: deployments, logs, configs, environments, dashboards.

But this is where things break down.

Most modern apps don’t have fine-grained permissions.

Concrete example: Vercel. If I want an agent to read logs or inspect env vars, I have to give it a token that also allows it to modify or delete things. There’s no clean read-only or capability-scoped access.

And this isn’t just Vercel. I see the same pattern across cloud dashboards, CI/CD systems, and SaaS APIs that were designed around trusted humans, not autonomous agents.

So the real question:

How are people actually restricting AI agents in production today?

Are you building proxy layers that enforce policy? Wrapping APIs with allowlists? Or just accepting the risk?

It feels like we’re trying to connect autonomous systems to infrastructure that was never designed for them.

Curious how others are handling this in real setups, not theory.

Comments

verdverm•1h ago
If you use a cloud like AWS, GCP, or Azure... you give it an SA and you give access with very fine grained permission controls

It's more about specific apps than modern apps and how your org puts their infra together.

I don't have your problem, I can give my agents all sorts of environments with a spectrum of access vs restrictions

NBenkovich•1h ago
Agreed on cloud IAM. AWS, GCP, and Azure handle fine-grained access well.

The problem is higher-level platforms and SaaS. Once agents need feedback from deployment, CI, logs, or config tools, permissions often collapse into “full token or nothing”. Vercel is just one example.

That’s the gap I’m pointing at.

verdverm•13m ago
Maybe the problem is your SaaS choices

I don't have problems with permissions in any of those things you listed. Do mainly k8s based infra

fsflover•1h ago
Qubes OS allows to isolate any workflow with hardware-assisted virtualization.
NBenkovich•1h ago
How can it help? Could you share more details please?
fsflover•53m ago
On Qubes, all software runs in virtual machines, isolated with strong virtualization. Anything you do in one dedicated VM has no effect on all others, so any unrelated data will not be accessible by the AI agents.
NBenkovich•50m ago
It’s great but how can it help with agent’s permissions for cloud services without fine grained tokens?
imidov•1h ago
There’s no clean read-only or capability-scoped access.-> always found that to be a no brainer backend feature, somehow most platforms misses that
NBenkovich•1h ago
Yeah, agreed. Read-only and capability-scoped access feels like a no-brainer.

Most platforms were built assuming a human behind the UI. Once you introduce AI agents, the missing permission layers start to show.

vitramir•40m ago
There’s also a related issue: many services use per-project API tokens. When agents need access to multiple projects, you have to pass several tokens at once. Which often leads to confusion and erratic behavior, including severe hallucinations.
NBenkovich•13m ago
Yeah, totally. Per-project tokens make it worse. Once you hand an agent multiple tokens, there’s no clean way to say “use this one vs that one”.