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Google has every advantage in AI. So why doesn't it lead?

1•HardCodedBias•1h ago
Google has an enormous number of advantages:

  1. Unreal profit stream from previous businesses
  2. A large collection of distinguished researchers
  3. Their own accelerator hardware giving them a cost advantage for serving
  4. More data than any other lab
  5. Best distribution on the planet
Google’s advantages are real, but their research/model + product execution hasn’t consistently cleared the market test that matters: developer and power-user preference for getting real work done. Aggressive pricing, bundling and distribution keep them “in the conversation,” but it increasingly feels like they’re buying relevance rather than earning it.

timeline:

  1. Bard -- laughable compared to the competition at the time
  2. Gemini 1.0 -- an actual punchline, hard to recall a launch that hurt Google's brand more
  3. Gemini 1.5 -- large context, no doubt. But not used for productivity menaifully
  4. Gemini 2 -- flash was cheap which opened up ... OCR?
  5. Gemini 2.5 -- close to frontier .. maybe.
  6. Gemini 3.0 -- maybe frontier for some reasoning tasks, but doesn't really stay on task and isn't in the "agentic" discussion.
  7. Post Gemini 3.0 -- OAI and Claude release at a breakneck speed claiming just about all of the "agentic" space, Gemini simply isn't in the conversation.

Comments

rvz•1h ago
Google would have been broken up a long time ago if they released Gemini much earlier than OpenAI.
us321•1h ago
Fear, too much to lose.
knollimar•1h ago
Ive found gemini to have the best vision by far.
HardCodedBias•34m ago
Probably true.

Not sure about “by far”. But probably best.

verdverm•1h ago
Gemini 3 is so new, that it's still in preview

Just because two big AI announced new models this week doesn't mean Google is behind. Gemini 3 isn't even 2 months old

Gemini is used in a lot of agentic setups. It's my primary.

Gemini users don't act like a cult like Claude users

Also look at how Google is now selling their TPU, everyone wants that more than Nvidia chips now, but only a very select few will ever get them

HardCodedBias•32m ago
Gemini 3 is in preview and it is pretty clearly behind multiple iterations for OAI and Ant.

It may even be behind open source at this point.

Seem telling.

Gemini is used in agentic setups by literally dozens of people. Dozens!

verdverm•1m ago
OpenAI is the only Big AI player who has been unable to train a model from scratch going on two years (since Ilya left) the 5 series is refinement of 4

But please, do go on about who's behind

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