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Brutalist Southbank Centre Listed

https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/brutalist-southbank-centre-finally-listed-after-35-years-of-refusals
14•daverol•1h ago

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globular-toast•30m ago
Meanwhile, Anglia Square in Norwich, which looks basically the same, is being demolished.

Annoyingly, if you search for Anglia Square, most of the pictures are actually of adjacent Sovereign House. This is what I'm talking about: https://www.edp24.co.uk/resources/images/19194299.jpg/

eigenspace•27m ago
Absolutely hideous, alienating, and inhuman. Not everything in cities needs to very preserved.
nateguchi•21m ago
Great news, surprised it's taken this long
louthy•19m ago
It’s a magnificent space. If you just judge it purely on the concrete you may have a different opinion, but if you’re there to consume the various forms of art performed on the Southbank, then the space really comes alive. I’m glad it’s listed.

I happen to love brutalist architecture, but in the uk it can sometimes not work (grey rainy days don’t bring out the best of the concrete). However, I think in this case it really works.

jstanley•8m ago
But it's the concrete that has been listed and not the various forms of art performed there.
louthy•6m ago
I mean it works as intended. It’s an art centre that succeeds in hosting art extremely well. Therefore, its functionally good architecture (if not visually appealing to everyone).
jjmarr•17m ago
I don't care what people say. I love brutalist architecture. I love the exposed concrete forms. I love the giant concrete turkey in Toronto and plan to one day visit the UK to see the Barbican.

Concrete is strong and imposing and emotional. It feels authoritative and cold. A warm building feels like it has deliberately undermined its own status to feel welcoming and feels fake. A brutalist building doesn't lie. It is a massive concrete edifice containing a large space within.

It also weathers in distinctive ways. The water stains are like seniority, telling me the building has and will last forever. A big glass skyscraper feels replaceable and new, like it's disposable and will be replaced in a few years.

I get a lot of hate for this but one of the benefits of a concrete house is the ability to throw stones.

kolektiv•11m ago
No I'm with you. There's an honest and an intent to it which I've always loved - plus an intent to do more with less in terms of form. No finicky detail to hide tricky areas, no taking of advantage of material to distract the eye - it stands or falls on form and function alone. I get why some may not like it, but for me it's a pure form of architecture. It's the building equivalent of a Dieter Rams, or a mid-period Olivetti. Beautiful.
renewiltord•12m ago
The objective of most British locations is to be preserved theme parks for their American betters to visit and remark upon. The greatest achievement of these people is to serve Americans coffee and behave for them in their unique ways.

“Oh you have such delightful accents and it’s so cheap here. Did you know we’d never be able to afford this in New York? Yes, I’d like a latte.

Can you believe it, darling? Our barista actually studied at Oxford. They’re never going to believe this back in Topeka, Kansas”

The British will be eager to point out to you that their homes are older than your country and that’s why their governments advise them to smear yogurt on their windows to keep cool lest they instantly die of heat stroke. They wallow in their dismal poverty, only pride keeping them firmly on this inevitable road to ruin.

Dystopian place.

YawningAngel•9m ago
If you have a cogent critique of our policy on preserving old buildings, you should articulate it. As things stand you just sound unhinged
renewiltord•2m ago
Your society has chosen to collectively be docents and servants. Why would I critique it? It would be like expounding to my cabbie the pleasures of being driven rather than having to drive others around. It’s merely observation for my peers here.
jimnotgym•10m ago
Love it or loath it, was listing it necessary? Was it in danger of being knocked down?

Be prepared for every little bit of building work to take twice as long and cost twice as much now. The hands of future users are firmly bound.

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