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Palantir vs. the "Republik": US analytics firm takes magazine to court

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Palantir-vs-the-Republik-US-analytics-firm-takes-magazine-to-court-11176508.html
72•cdrnsf•1h ago

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kakacik•50m ago
Those pesky Swiss with their rights and freedom of press, must be really annoying for poor little thiel, while he just wants to sell surveillance to all sides.

But seriously why should we (valid anywhere in Europe) buy such stuff from US, heck even take it for free. We can go straight to China with same logic, would be cheaper and have about the same amount of backdoors or remote kill switches. US admin publicly wished for subversion and dissolution of EU and making whole Europe a weaker continent, something folks like putin would greatly appreciate.

phoronixrly•49m ago
Calling the company specialising in cyber espionage, data theft and generally human rights violations just an "analytics company"... Call it what it is cowards...
yatopifo•45m ago
I think it's time for the EU to start denying US companies for security reasons.
llm_nerd•24m ago
The US recently sanctioned a number of ICC judges and prosecutors, acting as a pathetic supplicant state for Israel[1].

https://www.state.gov/icc-sanctions

Any company operating worldwide that has a base in the US is legally required to cut all ties with these people. Visa, Mastercard, Paypal, Google, Microsoft, and on and on. The US launched a trade nuclear bomb about some minor disagreement with the ICC, desperately trying to defend the war criminal (and just general criminal -- but don't worry, felon Trump is working to make sure he's pardoned for that, just like all the child molesters, drug dealers and sex traffickers that Trump is personally pardoning by the hundreds) Netanyahu.

For this reason alone, every country not the United States or Israel needs to be full bore ahead on replacing every single American dependency. The fact that the US is trying to use this to punish people prosecuting literal war crimes is absolutely disgusting behaviour, and is utterly intolerable. Ignoring that the US government treats American tech companies as extensions of the government (as much or worse than China, it should be noted. Literally enlisted tech executives from a number of companies in the armed forces, as Chairman Trump demands ownership stakes of all of the firms and their business), and the US government is a friend of no one.

And, it's happening. Everything the current pedo cabal is doing is the sort of short-term political win that is going to destroy the future of the US. Americans are still largely blissfully unaware and thinking this cabal of child rapists and self-dealing criminals (I believe Trump just gave himself $10B of taxpayer dollars...not even a murmur in the busted US) are just trolling the world, when really the US will be the biggest victim by far. Enjoy this brief moment of being the shining star, because the collapse is upon you. It turns out that the idiocracy has an expiry date.

[1] - While it shouldn't need to be said, Israel != Jewishness. Further, it isn't an antisemitic slur to note how absolutely Israel has a stranglehold over the US, constantly seeing the latter punching itself in the face in the service of that rogue nation. Utterly bizarre behaviour. The US is Israel's El Salvador, with a clucking crew of simpletons desperately looking for the boss to give them some accolades.

givemeethekeys•24m ago
That's right. They still want to spy on their citizens, mind you. They just don't want it to look bad, so they should go with someone local.
kmeisthax•17m ago
If they're local, then they're subject to GDPR, which carries massive fines and a private right of action that lets you sue the shit out of anyone who spies on you.

International surveillance, on the other hand, doesn't give two shits about GDPR. Likewise, in the US, they pay private firms and other governments to spy on their own citizens to get around the 4th and 5th Amendments.

Limiting spying to nation-state actors only - and prohibiting cross-border surveillance cooperation - would do an insane amount of good for plugging the data drain.

techpression•9m ago
Government spying is not subject to GDPR, just like you can’t ask the police what data they have on you. Whatever company gives them the tools will be exempt from any form of customer interference.
Nextgrid•7m ago
Fines so massive every company out there (including the linked website) takes the (rational) decision to not comply with it.
crimsoneer•40m ago
Probably worth also posting this for context: https://blog.palantir.com/korrektur-wie-das-online-magazin-d...
mellosouls•36m ago
Even if you buy Palantir’s claim of unfair framing, this is poor optics: the left defaults to “Palantir = big bad bully,” the right to “Europe = censorship,” and this fight manages to trigger both at once with Palantir looking very clumsy in the middle.
mlinhares•35m ago
Oh come on there won't be anybody on the right calling this censorship, its one of their biggest donors.
mellosouls•13m ago
The point is the right won't be able to easily defend them, on this particular issue they've crossed into "enemy" territory.
NitpickLawyer•32m ago
I sure hope Republik didn't write anything about Hulk Hogan ...
kmeisthax•21m ago
Shame on Heise for this GDPR-noncompliant trash in their cookie pop-up:

> We offer you the option of rejecting individual data processing. If you have made a selection for all processing purposes, you can save it. Please note that consent to personalised advertising is always required for use without a Pur subscription.

Naah, no, you don't get to gate rejecting consent behind a subscription. Not even if that's your economic reality. The GDPR entitles people in Europe to opt out of surveillance capitalism, and if you can't make money in that environment, you deserve to go bankrupt.

Gimme dat shit for free.

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