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Chess engines do weird stuff

https://girl.surgery/chess
52•admiringly•1h ago
Related: https://cosmo.tardis.ac/files/2026-02-12-az-rl-and-spsa.html

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GaggiX•40m ago
https://cosmo.tardis.ac/files/2026-02-12-az-rl-and-spsa.html

Response from the author of Viridithas, there is a link to this engine in her webpage.

dang•35m ago
Thanks! I've put that link in the toptext as well.
incognito124•26m ago
Please be careful when visiting the homepage
WesolyKubeczek•15m ago
It gave me serious vibes of the old internet homepages of highly eccentric people that became a part of the internet folklore, whether in a good way or a bad way.

The video is probably the least bizarre thing there, if that's what you are warning about.

uncivilized•7m ago
What were you browsing where someone cutting off their own testicles is not as bizarre as other things? I didn't watch the video but atleast there was a warning.

Feds this guy right here ^^

pavel_lishin•4m ago
This really reminds me of the web as I remember it from the mid-to-late 90's; I feel like I'm just a click away from the old deoxy.org, if anyone remembers that. (Don't go there now; the domain appears to have been long-ago hijacked.)
RivieraKid•24m ago
AFAIK chess is has been "solved" for a few years in the sense that Stockfish running on modern laptop with 1 minute per move is unbeatable from the starting position.
altruios•19m ago
Even by a stockfish running on a modern laptop with 2 minutes per move (provided they are going second)?!
helloplanets•2m ago
This is not true. Stockfish is not unbeatable by another engine, or another copy of Stockfish.

Chess engines have been impossible for humans to beat for well over a decade.

mpolson64•2m ago
I'm no expert on chess engine development, but it's surprising to me that both lc0 and stockfish use SPSA for "tuning" the miscellaneous magic numbers which appear in the system rather than different black box optimization algorithms like Bayesian optimization or evolutionary algorithms. As far as I am aware both of these approaches are used more often for similar tasks in non-chess applications (ex. hyperparameter optimization in ML training) and have much more active research communities compared to SPSA.

Is there something special about these chess engines that makes SPSA more desirable for these use cases specifically? My intuition is that something like Bayesian optimization could yield stronger optimization results, and that the computational overhead of doing BO would be minimal compared to the time it takes to train and evaluate the models.

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