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Students Are Being Treated Like Guinea Pigs: Inside an AI-Powered Private School

https://www.404media.co/students-are-being-treated-like-guinea-pigs-inside-an-ai-powered-private-school/
37•trinsic2•1h ago

Comments

gruez•1h ago
Besides the coverage from fox news/new york times that the article mentions, there's also a much more extensive review from a parent who had his kids in alpha school: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/your-review-alpha-school
trinsic2•56m ago
Holy crap that is a long article. In my view, the only important point is time freed up which should be a part of normal education. If students had more free time to think and contemplate one wonders what kind of world we would live in.

Too bad it takes a dubious idea for an AI school to surface that wisdom.

recursive•30m ago
The scrollbar is completely absent in Firefox. I think this is the first time I've seen long-form content with zero visual indication where I currently am in the document. Crazy.

Edit: Actually the scroll-bar is there, but it's nearly impossible to see because of the low contrast with the background. I guess I can blame my user agent for this one.

vondur•15m ago
So not really AI, but a well run private school with high achieving students. Looks like they do optimize the learning strategies.
ashton314•57m ago
> “All educational content is obsolete. Every textbook, every lesson plan, every test, all of it is obsolete because gen AI is going to be able to deliver a personalized lesson just for you,” Joe Liemandt, Alpha School’s “principal” and the founder of Trilogy, the company that owns many of the apps used by Alpha School, said in a podcast interview published last year.

I wonder if this fellow has ever read a serious book. I'm skeptical.

glitchc•35m ago
Maybe the school system failed him.
yoyohello13•10m ago
Hell, why learn History? The AI can just make a personalized History for you!
bronco21016•7m ago
Ugh, don't give the AI or wanna-be authoritarians ideas.
rglany•27m ago
So they are trained to follow instructions from a computer, trained to be unable to function without a computer. Let me guess that they are also exposed to hundreds of trolley problems so that they can make "difficult decisions" later.

Probably not exposed to humanities or arts so as not to weaken their utility as tech goons.

A new cadre school for Technocracy Inc.

gruez•14m ago
Holy crap, quite bit of extrapolations in your comment.

>trained to be unable to function without a computer.

Where is this from? The article mentions a lot of issues with alpha school, but the implication that kids are glued to screens and are "unable to function without a computer" isn't one of them. There's the issue that finishing random ed-tech games don't prepare you for the real world, but I don't really see how that's different than the perennial complaint that the US education fails to prepare kids for the real world (eg. "I learned from school that mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell but not how to do my taxes")

>Let me guess that they are also exposed to hundreds of trolley problems so that they can make "difficult decisions" later.

???

>Probably not exposed to humanities or arts so as not to weaken their utility as tech goons.

See the review linked in my other comment. It might not be an unbiased account, but I'm reasonably confident that the average student there gets more exposure to "humanities or arts" and other extracurriculars, than the average public school student, who maybe gets a field trip to the science center once a year.

bethekidyouwant•20m ago
The dream is clearly asking a student what they’re interested in, getting them to self direct on a project with guidance and deliver something you can evaluate. I would hazard that AI helps rather than hinders this.
worik•7m ago
AI might one day be useful for this

Not this AI, today

MengerSponge•14m ago
These founders are careless and weirdly cruel. It's wildly unethical, immoral, wrong to do this to children.

"My investigation into Alpha School also reveals that the massive amounts of data the company collects on students, including videos of them, is stored in a Google Drive folder that anyone with the link—even if they’ve left the company, or if it was sent to them—could access."

Prison. People need to go to prison for this.

gruez•6m ago
>These founders are careless and weirdly cruel. It's wildly unethical, immoral, wrong to do this to children.

For lax security, or monitoring students at all? I don't think you'll find anyone opposing the former, but what's the alternative to the latter? At the end of the day, they're kids, and they need supervision to keep them on task. I think remote schooling during covid showed that kids can't really be left to their own devices. The alternatives I can think of aren't great:

1. individual human tutors: insanely expensive, out of reach for even well paid programmers, or you have to home school

2. ed tech, without the monitoring: won't work because kids get distracted, and you can't expect the parents to do that when they have jobs

3. traditional schooling, with maybe small class sizes: see the review in my other posts. Seems like even with well funded private schools, the lesson plan isn't really individualized so you're catering to the lowest common denominator

rahimnathwani•4m ago
Whether a link requires login or not is irrelevant when everyone has the same password: https://x.com/RahimNathwani/status/1900199324279333115
rahimnathwani•11m ago
The typical 5th grader at Alpha School has math achievement at the 85th percentile of 5th graders. This is not bad, but it's not remarkable.

I love the approach Alpha School is taking. And I believe that they're really trying to iterate to something that works really well. But I think many people are misled by the way Alpha School words claims about their achievement.

Alpha School's web site has this bullet point:

"99th Percentile: The majority of students consistently outperform national averages."

If you just glance at this, you may assume it means the majority of students perform at the 99th percentile.

But that's not what it's saying.

Alpha School's mean achivement score (across all students in a particular grade) puts the 'district' (collection of schools) at the 99th percentile of districts.

But that's not an amazing feat, because there are 10,000+ school districts in the USA. Most of those don't have the positive selection bias Alpha School has (due to the price and ideology). Moreover, most districts have adverse selection, as many academically-inclined parents will choose to send their children to private schools.

You can judge the results for yourself. Here is the school score report from Spring 2025: https://go.alpha.school/hubfs/MAP%20Results%20-%2024%2025/20...

Here is some of the data from the Winter 2026 school score report: https://x.com/jliemandt/status/2023011075029922131?s=20

This leads to the takeaway at the start of this comment: the typical 5th grader at Alpha School has math achievement at the 85th percentile of 5th graders.

I can't add images here, so I'll link to the evidence here: https://x.com/RahimNathwani/status/2023111922636476899

ChrisArchitect•10m ago
https://archive.ph/8kzwr
ChrisArchitect•8m ago
Related previously:

Unbound Academy hasn’t replaced teachers with AI

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45443004

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We should only accept life damaging educational malpractice from public schools.

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