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A sitting US president launched two memecoins that wiped out $4.3B+

https://twitter.com/MeshnetCapital/status/2023573563559547180
81•doener•1h ago

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toomuchtodo•1h ago
https://archive.today/G02Gy
cushpush•1h ago
Being upset that meme coins underwent a boom and bust is like getting angry at fire for being hot.
hightrix•1h ago
The difference here is that this is the president doing this rug pull.

Using his power to make billions is not exactly enshrined in the constitution.

toomuchtodo•1h ago
This is who he is. This is who they voted for. The electorate voted for Congressional representation that does not hold him accountable.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_wha...

palmotea•1h ago
> The difference here is that this is the president doing this rug pull.

Cryptocurrency has always been a scam of no real utility for honest actors (compared to alternatives).

> Using his power to make billions is not exactly enshrined in the constitution.

Not exactly. Trump is dishonest and greedy, and doesn't care about a lot of appearances that prior presidents cared a lot about. In this case, he's not "using his power to make billions," he's actually not refraining from making billions because he has power.

I'm pretty sure Obama and Biden could have made money from a meme-coin, if they were so inclined. But if they even thought about it at all, they would have rejected the idea because it would look bad, hurt the office, etc. Trump doesn't care about those things.

solumunus•1h ago
Again, completely irrelevant.
smt88•1h ago
It's very obvious that the anger is about POTUS using his office for rug-pulls, not that rug-pulls are happening in the first place
AnimalMuppet•41m ago
Por que no los dos?

I can be angry about memecoin rug-pulls as a general scam, and I can be angry that the sitting US president is running shady scams.

tadfisher•1h ago
The problem with this statement is the part of the title that it completely ignores. More precisely, the first part.
nozzlegear•1h ago
Surely you're taking the piss and can recognize that what's unique about this story is the fact that a sitting US president pushed the meme coins? They made Jimmy Carter put his peanut farm into a blind trust, but Trump is raking in money off his crypto pushes, shady dealings, and business holdings.

Edit: Carter put his farm into a blind trust, he didn't sell it.

solumunus•1h ago
That’s what we’re upset about ay?
simonw•1h ago
Jimmy Carter put his peanut farm in a blind trust.
ge96•1h ago
Mission accomplished
mentalfist•1h ago
Memecoins? More like bribe/money laundering special vehicles
thrance•1h ago
He mostly stole it from his idiotic voter base, so it's a net positive in my book.
dantillberg•1h ago
That's what I thought as well at first, but I've come to think that is just the cover story. While some of his base likely did buy in, I expect that _most_ of the inflows were from individuals or groups looking to influence the administration (aka bribes).
thrance•54m ago
Yet he didn't feel the need to hide the plane he received from the Saudis, or the gold bars he got from tech companies. Hell, he even bragged about those. Because there's no one able and willing to stop his naked corruption, he has zero reason to hide it. Shamelessness is his signature, after all. No, his coins were organically fed by people who believe his lies.
autoexec•32m ago
He doesn't have any shame, but some of the people bribing him may not want to be so public about that. His bribecoins gave them the ability to funnel money without having to worry about any fallout (legal or reputational).
cheema33•1h ago
> He mostly stole it from his idiotic voter base, so it's a net positive in my book.

Some of it was done to receive bribes in exchange of favors from the govt. We all paid for that shit.

t1234s•1h ago
Isn't all memecoin just a pump and dump anyways?

I always thought of it as an alternative to lottery tickets or slot machines.

dhosek•1h ago
More an alternative to pigeon drop and spanish prisoner
candiddevmike•42m ago
I wish someone could help me understand why GenZ predominantly doesn't get this after they keep getting burned by get rich quick schemes. How did we raise a generation of rubes?
chucksta•30m ago
I dont know, I thought no child was supposed to be left behind
t1234s•25m ago
I guess compared to slot machines or lottery tickets (which are instant loss if not a win) if you lose initially on memecoin there is a shred of a chance it rebounds and you can make some of it back.

Maybe they see this as a "better" vice to have with excess income.

xanthor•23m ago
It’s rational if you cognize that being the beneficiary of a long shot scheme or gamble is the only viable path to economic security for most, given the overall trajectory of the economy. Simply plot the median wage in terms of gold or any other hard commodity (as opposed to the gamed CPI metric).
MBCook•1h ago
It was nice having laws while they lasted.
foxyv•40m ago
In the US, laws were only for the affluent, male, white class anyways. Richard Rothstein wrote a great book about it called "Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Color_of_Law

It's just that the middle class is no longer going to be the "In" group.

MBCook•16m ago
Oh come on. Yeah the law has never been applied equally. Terribly so. M

That has nothing to do with the specific thing I’m obviously saying.

foxyv•7m ago
The unspecified, specific thing.
xrd•59m ago
No one will tell me who this. The title doesn't. But I bet it was Biden!
xrd•49m ago
Help, I'm being heavily down voted by the Biden team!
cheema33•55m ago
That is nothing! Did you know that Obama wore a tan suit one day as the US president? That's the real scandal!
danans•53m ago
It's probably difficult to find out (but someone here could probably analyze the blockchain), but it would be interesting to know the mean and median stake of the investors who got wiped out.

If the mean is large, it's mostly an off-the-books bribery scheme. If the average stake is small, it's mostly a pump-and-dump con of regular people.

But it was probably just a gambling scheme with just one big bet, where as ever, the house always wins.

foxyv•45m ago
It can be both. Use the "Contributions" from "Donors" to make it appear that the coin is going to the moon and then dump it once enough credulous victims buy into the scam. Reward the donors with their appropriate tit-for-tat and then pocket it all.
danans•39m ago
> It can be both. Use the "Contributions" from "Donors" to make it appear that the coin is going to the moon and then dump it once enough credulous victims buy into the scam.

Sure, and cynically, just like in traditional casino gambling, the wipe-out could be viewed as the price of "entertainment".

If there is no class action lawsuit, then we know that the people who got wiped out thought the price was worth whatever they got for it, whether favors or fun.

foxyv•4m ago
It's probably just too early for the class actions. There are a couple suits against Bannon and Trump for the "Let's go Brandon" coin.

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