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Halt and Catch Fire: TV's Best Drama You've Probably Never Heard Of (2021)

https://www.sceneandheardnu.com/content/halt-and-catch-fire
89•walterbell•1h ago

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IBCNU•34m ago
And as I understand it loosely based on the fantastic and seminal book Soul of a New Machine.

I had a great EM once who said I need to read it because nothing has changed in 40 years, and I keep a copy on my desk.

Touching as well, as it's on Joe MacMillan's desk in the final scene of third season.

What's so great about it is:

- mushroom theory of management works - trust new graduates and juniors to win by not understanding the possible - throw all the corporate bs away, just build - competing teams (skunk-works, vs roadmap team) works - real innovation is built by tinkerers, from the ground up, not top down

as a startup weirdo in the age of AI, who pines for the golden era (as they call it the golden prarie) i highly recommend this show!

LambdaComplex•19m ago
You just reminded me that I got about halfway through Soul of a New Machine. Maybe I'll pick it back up this week.
unmole•14m ago
> And as I understand it loosely based on the fantastic and seminal book Soul of a New Machine.

I've only watched the first season and really don't see the link to Soul of a New Machine.

tptacek•10m ago
Season 1 is Soul of a New Machine-ish, but about personal computing, not minicomputers, and is set in Texas.

Season 2 is roughly about BBSs and Compuserve, and still in Texas.

Season 3 is about the early commercial Internet, same characters, SFBA.

Season 4 is about the Yahoo era of the Internet and about venture capital, also SFBA.

danielvaughn•32m ago
Lee Pace's performance in that show is one of my all time favorites. It's incredibly hard to play a charismatic marketing guru because in some sense, you're not acting. In a given scene, the character might be trying to convince people around him of some crazy idea, but if he hasn't convinced you, the viewer, then the entire illusion falls apart. So he really has to do in real life what he's pretending to do on screen.

edit - a great example and one of my favorite scenes from the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOR8mk0tLpc

IBCNU•31m ago
he reminds me of truly the best bosses

also something about him with a good engineer

reminds me of me and my boss, i hope lol

imglorp•16m ago
More recently, I loved how he killed it in Foundation. Another great casting for a great actor.
OneDeuxTriSeiGo•14m ago
Lee Pace is such a phenomenal actor. He really just transforms the roles he's in and makes something special out of each show he's in.

He's also fantastic in Apple TV's Foundation and it's been really impressive seeing his range put on display there.

idontwantthis•6m ago
He also stars in The Fall, one of my favorite movies ever.
leonflexo•29m ago
Great show and fantastic music. This show and Driver were two soundtracks that captured that early/mid 2010s vibe for me personally.
t1234s•28m ago
A great watch if you are nostalgic for the early BBS days or early WWW days. The post 2000 generation may not get it.
29athrowaway•27m ago
The first seasons were excellent, the latter seasons not so much.
1970-01-01•19m ago
Objectively it was consistently good but not great.

https://www.ratingraph.com/tv-shows/halt-and-catch-fire-rati...

29athrowaway•5m ago
The first season was the best season, and it's probably a good stopping point.
chucksmash•4m ago
Interesting. Different strokes I suppose. I loved this show but in the beginning they put too much emphasis on Lee Pace's character for my taste. Just kind of "ooooh, what will the brooding. mysterious maverick in a suit with a dark past do next? So unpredictable" and it didn't really resonate with me like the later seasons did.
colinmegill•27m ago
So good
JSR_FDED•26m ago
This series is great at multiple levels:

- the archetype characters and their motivations to do what they do (100% valid today)

- struggles and exhilaration of startups

- as a pseudo-documentary of the early years of personal computing

Highly recommend it!

dvrp•26m ago
It’s great but it ain’t no Mr. Robot.
Sebguer•25m ago
One is a deeply human drama, the other is a spy thriller. Not sure why you'd even make the comparison.
lotsofpulp•20m ago
I couldn’t get past all the drug scenes in Mr Robot.
hola-tamale•20m ago
Fantastic show! Just wrote an analysis of the conflicts between the characters and how every disagreement turns into a zero sum game:

https://gilpignol.substack.com/p/halt-and-catch-fire-the-tra...

brightball•18m ago
My dad kept trying to get me to watch this show and I never got around to it. Maybe I need to.
tptacek•14m ago
It's quite good, but it gets very Six Feet Under by the end, and you have to suspend a lot of disbelief about technology; it's a little like Hackers in the sense that it's trying to communicate a feeling about operating in specific eras of computing, but not so much trying to realistically depict what it was like.

Christopher Cantwell, the showrunner, is also doing the new series of The Terror (aka North Pole Bear Show) that's premiering this year.

DrFunke•14m ago
Season 1 was wonderful. The showrunner had initially written the pilot to get a job on Mad Men. It was eviscerated by critics for being too male, too masculine and seasons 2 onward pivoted into a girlboss series with Lee Pace's character taking a backseat and Scooter's character becoming a stay at home house husband. But if you like Breaking Bad and Sopranos, S1 is very well written.
wmf•7m ago
I always thought Joe MacMillan was Don Draper with a little Steve Jobs so that explains it.
vesrah•12m ago
This is one of those shows I've had in the rolling background rewatch queue for years, I love it and I try to recommend it to as many people as possible. Flawed, yes, but still special.
dzink•11m ago
Yes, hands down the best show! They need to do more seasons, especially with modern day problems.

Other thoughtful and well made shows: Dark Matter, For All Mankind, Foundation (also Lee Pace and also stellar).

hsbauauvhabzb•7m ago
> They need to do more seasons, especially with modern day problems.

Silicon Valley, the insanity that it’s both a comedy and true to life

bane•8m ago
It starts as a kind of okay near-real alternate history of early computing in the Silicon Prairie, and ends with some really powerful storytelling about the fragility of humanity.

Totally worth a watch.

ppcdeveloper•8m ago
This is on my bucket list to finish. Watched one or two episodes and it reminded me of a dead serious Silicon Valley.

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