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The Dance Floor Is Disappearing in a Sea of Phones

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-02-20/a-boom-in-electronic-dance-music-is-changing-club-culture
36•blondie9x•2h ago

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rumori•43m ago
Berghain puts stickers on your phone cameras, it’s pretty non intrusive while substantially improving the party experience. I didn’t see a single phone in the air on the dancefloor. It was quite refreshing, felt like partying in the 2000s.
phrotoma•31m ago
I went to a show at Fabric in London during Kubecon last spring and they did the same thing. I still saw the odd person who peeled it off taking selfies or pics of friends inside but that was definitely the exception.
retired•24m ago
Perhaps it can be enforced with a type of laser that doesn’t damage the human eye but completely obliterates a phone camera. As long as you keep the sticker on nothing happens to your phone.
OneMorePerson•7m ago
I've seen this in Asia, there's an employee who basically is standing at a raised spot in the corner and if you take out your phone they shoot a small laser pointer right into the camera, it messes with the video. They can't get it on there all the time but a video where half of it (or more they are surprisingly accurate) is a strobing laser becomes pretty garbage anyways. While they are doing that another employee/bouncer comes over and warns them, have seen people get kicked out for pulling it out a second time.
jbaiter•28m ago
It's pretty much the norm in all "proper" German techno/electronic music clubs I've been to, Berlin and elsewhere.
GuestFAUniverse•24m ago
Cool. Now do that at the entrance to swimming pools too.

Has become a pest. Even inside. Even directly at or in the water. No matter what the signs say.

At least regarding that I miss the last millennium: no omnipresence of cameras. Not a bunch of entitled pseudo-influencers filming everything and everyone.

blinding-streak•42m ago
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mellosouls•36m ago
A non-paywalled discussion on the subject from a year ago:

Nightclub stickers over smartphone rule divides the dancefloor (85 points, 91 comments)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42352825

I've never understood the appeal of so-called "dance" events.

Crowds of thousands like sardines swaying-at-best to the DJ being treated as a rockstar but without the talent and entertainment as far as I can see.

Note: this isn't a rockist viewpoint; I'm a dancer who is frustrated at the lack of options to actually move about in space on a dancefloor with other dancers who are there to actually, you know, dance.

I hate the way the word has been co-opted by what appears to be a generation of drugged-out sheep who seem incapable of soulful movement.

georgeecollins•32m ago
Dancing is fun. Dancing in a crowd is freeing because you feel less self conscious. I encourage my kids to dance. DJs.. I don't know. I guess I grew up in an era when they weren't stars.
candiddevmike•28m ago
The attention economy requires sacrificial likes, lest you lose followers. People can't just enjoy themselves, they need to generate FOMO or do/show something outrageous in front of a camera 24/7.
expedition32•26m ago
I grew up in the 90s and we already had XTC. (Funny story about that it was invented by an actual chemist student like a real life "Breaking Bad")
whackernews•24m ago
Just regarding the drugs: I can totally understand when people are anti-drugs. I’d say it still depends on someone’s personality though. I’ve always thought that drugs and alcohol don’t really change your personality they just amplify it. If someone’s not really a dancer and maybe a bit anxious (seemingly every kid these days) they end up taking a load of drugs to compensate but just end up vegetated. If you’re already someone who feels the music and feels free enough to dance then honestly taking some drugs can be quite the experience.
mellosouls•21m ago
Yeah my point is really about how the drugs now seem to be a necessary catalyst for the communal experience they are going for - but what they are going for isn't dance in the sense of moving about in creative individual physical expression.

Whereas the dance scenes I've formerly attended were heavy in drug use but the main thing people are there for is dancing.

whackernews•11m ago
Yeh. I mean I ultimately completely agree with your last paragraph. Society seems to have shifted and no amount of lasers and drugs is able to make people move! Also to your point moving actually takes up a lot of space and, thus, less tickets. It’s really better for maximising profits if people don’t move and ideally advertise the event for you.
phrotoma•21m ago
Sounds like you agree with TFA:

> “Nobody was asking for the screen to be bigger. Nobody was asking for more production, more lasers. Literally, the number one complaint every year was, ‘Hey, you guys are overselling these shows, we want more room to dance.’”

rayiner•5m ago
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sandworm101•31m ago
Search youtube for laserface and gareth emery. The sea of phones are all recording the stage. So they are the same color as the show. They turn the otherewise dark audience into a reflection, adding to the effect. This is not a bad thing.

As for dancing, dancing is for clubs. Clubs are not concert halls. You dance at a club. You watch a show at a hall. Only DJ-types who are confused about whether they are record-spinning robots or stars in a spotlight cannot tell the difference.

https://youtu.be/9-ochJEQpb0

retired•26m ago
Perhaps they could have communicated beforehand that the performance would be available for free on YouTube afterwards, so that people don’t need to record.
sandworm101•18m ago
But the official footage will not be the same as the show as you lived it. The effects look radically different from seat to seat. And your friends wont be there either.
margalabargala•8m ago
This assumes that the recording from the audience will actually be watched ever.
pjmlp•9m ago
Here is the thing, I still remember when there was no recording, what happens in the venue stays in the venue, or gets talked with others that shared the experience.
moritzwarhier•24m ago
I'm mostly too old to go to clubs, but to me techno and other electronic music is not about stages or visual effects, quite the opposite. Well OK, VFX can be cool.

But getting lost in music, in a darkened room with some intentionally disorienting VFX; or simply none, loud electronic music in a room with many people is already quite an experience...

that's quite different from being at a festival or at a show like this, which looks more like a musical opera performance to me.

For big room EDM, was there ever a time when it was not about laser shows etc?

I mean there's nothing wrong with stage shows, pop music and lasers.

thinkingemote•24m ago
The phone is a kind of shield for the person holding it above their head. It safely removes them from having to fully engage with what's in front of them.

The camera both removes the person from the scene and also by recording enables the event to be captured in a format to be reviewed again. The videos are never actually intended to be watched again or shared with friends though but they are proof that the person was physically there (if not wholly present).

There was a video I recently saw about how birthday parties should be filmed. Instead of a video of just the birthday girl in front of a cake reacting to her friends singing happy birthday, she takes the camera, flips it so we don't see her anymore but we see her friends singing facing her with faces full of love.

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