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The Hunt for Dark Breakfast – Can we derive breakfasts we have never observed?

https://moultano.wordpress.com/2026/02/22/the-hunt-for-dark-breakfast/
75•moultano•1h ago

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kibwen•1h ago
I suggest that the forbidden breakfast is tantamount to an eggs benedict, but with the hollandaise sauce replaced by a roux.
koolba•1h ago
So eggs with white gravy? I think I’ve had that combo and it was pretty banging.
kazinator•1h ago
If it's forbidden, it is rather "eggs interdict".
noduerme•1h ago
Add crawfish and you're really talkin
Bjartr•29m ago
How about a Sauce Mornay?

béchamel (roux + milk) + egg yolks + cheese

josephjeon•1h ago
Isn't it something like pancake with more eggs?
muzani•36m ago
The real question is why this isn't already a dish.
kazinator•1h ago
Love how at at the milk apex, there is cafe latte. Of course, it couldn't just be milk, perish the thought!
hspeiser•1h ago
What about french toast? I feel like there is a lot of egg in it, might place it near the bottom of the abyss.
moultano•1h ago
French toast isn't plotted because the recipe doesn't customarily start with flour, but if you do plot it it ends up in the lower middle. If you have exceptionally eggy challah, then you might be able to push it into the abyss, but really exceptionally eggy, like 1:1 egg to flour by weight.
dheera•1h ago
What about vegetable-forward breakfasts? Completely not on this chart.
bigstrat2003•51m ago
That's because such breakfasts are forbidden by the Geneva Convention articles, section 23, subsection 8, paragraph 4. It's not one of the more well known provisions, but it does exist, and nobody wants to break international law.
abakker•1h ago
If you add baking powder and butter, that dark breakfast recipe is very close to crepes.

My crepe recipe - cook on medium heat pan:

Blend on low: 4 eggs- 3/4 cup whole milk, 1/2 stick of melted butter, and 1/4cup to 1/2 cup plain flower, 1 heaped tbsp of baking powder, 1/2 tsp salt, vanilla optional and to taste

josephjeon•1h ago
Looks like very close to the dark breakfast recipe
ai-christianson•1h ago
The concept of a 'Dark Breakfast Abyss' in the Breakfast Simplex is hilarious, but it got me thinking—maybe the reason we lack foods in that specific ratio of milk, flour, and eggs isn't because they'd destroy the world, but because they simply don't cook well conceptually. Like, an overly-battered omelette just turns into a gummy mess, not a crepe. It's fascinating how our culinary traditions naturally naturally sort themselves into these distinct mathematical vertices over centuries of trial and error.
noduerme•1h ago
Haha. I'd suggest that what's missing in the um "latent space" here, is that the triangle should be a pentagon involving some form of bacon/sausage, and some form of potato.

This cracked me up, because I had a fantastic dream the other night where I had a tour through a donut factory. But the best thing I had (in the dream) was something I'd never tried before, never seen, and which I intend to make at the earliest opportunity. It was slightly salty french fries, buttered and coated in sugar and cinnamon, like cinnamon toast. Bang on. Makes a lot of sense too, if you think about it. Definitely would fit in the "dark breakfast" polygon.

[edit] the potato and bacon theory also comes from what ends up deliciously mixed on your plate at the end, which along with syrup and ketchup is also an integral part of any egg/flour/milk breakfast.

kfarr•55m ago
Yeah meat is another dimension, as is potato. So we're up to 4 dimensional breakfast latent space. I hate to think what's in the dark breakfast black hole of that 4 dimensional latent space...
cadamsdotcom•1h ago
What sort of projection is this that turns a 3-dimensional space into a triangle!

Fancy projection math is only for after coffee!

jonahx•1h ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplex

Common for visualizing mixtures of three things!

moultano•29m ago
It's easy, if you normalize it so that it sums to one, it drops a dimension, and becomes an equilateral triangle.
JackFr•56m ago
This article doesn't do it justice, but the Womelette at the short-lived Royal Canadian Pancake House in NYC lived in the dark abyss.

https://www.eater.com/2015/1/26/7860903/amanda-cohen-royal-c...

It wasn't just an omelette on top of a waffle (and both of them the size of a medium pizza). As you strayed from the edges toward the center it became difficult to see where the waffle ended and the omelette began.

Such a shame they went out of business.

fyltr•56m ago
Might choux hit that dark breakfast abyss? They aren't breakfast per se, but it might show that you can do things with those proportions.
01100011•49m ago
The recipe at the end sounds a lot like the crepes I'd make in college. It was pre-WWW and I had no idea what I was doing but it seemed to work. The one thing I had going for me in college was a Costco membership. 25lb bags of flour, gallons of milk, and flats of eggs.. all cheap. I'd barter with roommates for crepe toppings (sour cream and jelly usually).
jfengel•47m ago
Congratulations. You've reinvented the souffle.
muzani•44m ago
In Malaysia, a common breakfast is roti telur + teh tarik which is close to the dark breakfast region. It's like paratha, with an egg, and milk tea.

It is difficult to put milk into food. Why not just drink it? Alternatively, can we drink eggs and flour?

Cheese is another variation for milk. What about grilled cheese and eggs? Or some variation on Mac and Cheese?

You can also consider other dimensions like vegetables and spices. According to this plane, shakshuka is pure egg. Add spices to milk and you have chai. Add eggs to chai and you have cursed eggnog.

darth_avocado•22m ago
Egg paratha is a common Indian dish. The dough can be made with flour and water, but is traditionally made with flour and milk.

https://www.thedeliciouscrescent.com/omelette-stuffed-parath...

purplezooey•39m ago
No mention of Eggs Florentine?
medi8r•34m ago
Breakfast is just generally milquetoast then?
zem•29m ago
french toast was dismissed far too lightly, it's exactly what goes into the gap. also savoury bread pudding.
kasitmp•28m ago
Salzburger Nockerln seems to fit in that area. https://www.austria.info/en-gb/recipes/salzburger-nockerl/

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