"Cancel ChatGPT" movement goes mainstream after OpenAI closes deal with U.S. Dow

https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/cancel-chatgpt-movement-goes-mainstream-after-openai-closes-deal-with-u-s-department-of-war-as-anthropic-refuses-to-surveil-american-citizens

128•AndrewKemendo•2h ago

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avaer•1h ago

> There are no virtuous participants in the artificial intelligence race

A bit of an insulting way to start the article.

Plenty of researchers and smaller companies would disagree, but they won't get articles written about them because they're not embroiled in DOW killbot drama.

We might not be in this situation if all of this money was given to them instead.

Terr_•1h ago

In a similar vein, a shout out to all my software homies out there who are just trying to fix data entry input field bugs instead of constructing the Torment Nexus.

ssl-3•1h ago

"DOW" here is an acronym for Department of War, and really should be fully capitalized in the title.

marginalia_nu•1h ago

Yeah title is currently likely to be interpreted as Dow Jones.

cls59•1h ago

Or Dow Chemical.

Svip•1h ago

It's also still the Department of Defense; only Congress can change its name, and they haven't.

ssl-3•1h ago

The article's title says "Department of War".

(I didn't write the title.)

Retric•1h ago

DoW or more accurately DoD like WoW is less ambiguous than fully capitalized.

ssl-3•48m ago

I considered the small "o". But the precedent for US government TLAs seems to be to capitalize the whole thing: https://www.justice.gov/nsd-ovt/us-government-acronym-list

Simulacra•1h ago

This article makes no sense. ChatGPT is a search engine and knowledge base with an anthropomorphic front end. It's Google with human characteristics. I think, IMHO, people take AI way too seriously and see in it a boogeyman to conquer.

procone•1h ago

It is certainly not a "search engine". Perhaps you should do some reading on how LLMs function.

andy_ppp•1h ago

I know this is very picky but I find the font choices of Claude quite distracting and difficult to read. I might try Gemini but the Trump admin would probably force Google to sell YouTube to Larry Ellison so they will capitulate. Are any of the Chinese frontier models available on neutral infrastructure?

drewolbrich•1h ago

There's a Claude settings option to use the system font instead.

delecti•1h ago

It seems like Claude's settings let you pick the system font. Is there a reason to not change your system font to something you don't find distracting? It seems like it would have knock-on benefits by making every application less distracting.

andy_ppp•1h ago

Nice I didn’t know this I’ll give it go then…

Imustaskforhelp•30m ago

> are any of the Chinese frontier models available on neutral infrastructure?

Yup, Check out Openrouter providers for your particular chinese frontier model/ open weights model in general and you could find the location of all providers who host that model and where they are hosted (US/EU countries etc.) as well.

You can also change Claude font as others are mentioning.

jedberg•1h ago

It’s DoD. It’s still not officially changed. But if you insist on using the nickname it should be DoW.

siva7•1h ago

Says windowscentral.com... People outside of Big Tech haven't heard of Anthropic nor do they care about this dispute. What normal poeple might have heard is probably more something along the lines of Anthropic and supply-chain-risk and unpatriotic...

3rodents•1h ago

The top post on Reddit is about it, it has escaped the nerdsphere.

siva7•59m ago

Reddit is an algorithm-based aggregator so of course it will show some hn dude also the same nerd stuff

delecti•54m ago

Reddit's "hot" algorithm (the default view in most contexts) is not persomalized. It's basically just the rate of upvotes.

siva7•48m ago

Sure? I visited Reddit just now and i don't even know how to get to this non-personalized algo. At least they make a really good job to hide this view as good as possible so i doubt it's the default view for most logged users.

delecti•41m ago

That's my point, you don't generally have to "do" anything to get to "hot". If you open a /r/all or an individual subreddit, the default view is the "hot" algorithm.

mi_lk•57m ago

> People outside of Big Tech haven't heard of Anthropic

"Claude by Anthropic" is currently #2 Top Free App in US App Store

siva7•51m ago

According to the US App Store a rule-based proxy utility is the #1 paid app. So not sure how much relevance the App store charts have at all in real life.

xienze•44m ago

I think you're both right. Prior to the other day, Claude had nowhere near as much mindshare with regular people as ChatGPT did. But now that they've stood up to Orange Man, they're heroes to a large segment of the population who would otherwise have never given them a second thought.

On a related note, since OpenAI is playing ball with Orange Man, they're public enemy #1 for this same segment, hence the calls to cancel subscriptions and boycott OpenAI.

By this time next week, most people will have forgotten about all of this.

journal•1h ago

I refuse to use anything but OpenAI API.

hypercube33•1h ago

I can't tell if this is satire but if not, you're only holding yourself back. It's far from the leading model family for a while now for almost any workload.

firefoxd•1h ago

One thing to take into account, this will now be a large source of revenue for them. You thought you would get away with the free tier, but now as a tax payer, we are all funding it.

hbarka•25m ago

Dario Amodei direct interview today on CBS News:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPTNHrq_4LU

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