This is how you end up with fewer citizens who are qualified to teach other citizens.
Don't change the subject, do you agree the US political system should prioritize the interests of Americans over foreigners?
Why are universities not creating a talent pool for their self-sustainment? Many of us have had to suffer through college lectures of dubious real-world application and near-incomprehensible accents. I am not alone when I realized that I could just enter the tech world with self-study, self-promotion, and applying to open positions.
They say, "those who can, do - those who can't, teach", and I believe it. Maybe the real question is: Are universities going the way of the physical newspaper, the personal blog, the dinosaur...?
So instead of getting the credentials required to authoritatively say what does and does not have real world applications, you dropped out, removing yourself from a qualified labor pool? Do you think the deep engineering knowledge and practices to solve hard problems is overrated?
rayiner•1h ago
pavel_lishin•1h ago
A recent college grad may not be able to actually do the work that these universities are looking for.
gedy•1h ago
Untenured position in Florida - I'm guessing the pay was not great, no?
Eddy_Viscosity2•52m ago
pavel_lishin•33m ago
But I am guessing that Florida is, in general, not the most desirable place for academics to be.
butterbomb•13m ago
rayiner•52m ago
In theory, you could trust USCIS to identify areas that have real need. But that process hasn’t been reliable in decades: https://spectrum.ieee.org/stem-crisis-as-myth-gets-yet-anoth... (“Salzman spoke of the latest data on STEM graduates and jobs, reiterating that STEM programs turn out at least 50 percent more IT graduates every year than there are U.S. job openings. He also said that if the H-1B program is ramped up to the numbers that are being advocated (up from 85 000 to 185 000), that worker oversupply could possibly increase to the 90 percent mark or more.”). Note this article was written before the impacts of AI, etc., started being felt. So things are even worse now.
stackskipton•45m ago
Part of this is we broke the pipelines in United States to domestically produce such talent. Foreign student visas made these jobs extremely unattractive for domestic students with options because of low pay + debt load while making them extremely attractive to foreign students because until recently, many people around the world were willing to do whatever for US visa.
rayiner•34m ago
I went to a magnet high school in Virginia. At the time, it was about 25-30% Asian immigrants. Today, it’s like 70%. From then to now, the culture totally changed. It went from being pretty WASPy, where people worked hard but open competition was frowned upon, to being a total pressure cooker. There is a reason American families move away when Asian immigrants move into school districts: https://www.the74million.org/article/fear-of-competition-res...
For a long time, I faulted Americans who didn’t teach their kids to “learn to work 16 hours a day” like my dad taught me. But I have kids of my own now, and they don’t have the mentality of someone who is a generation away from having to take a boat to school during monsoon season. And that’s probably a good thing that we should want as a society.
Scoundreller•17m ago
+ most countries don’t crush their graduates with nearly the same debt
+ PhDs abroad can be quicker to get making lower pay acceptable
light_hue_1•27m ago
First, Florida killed tenure. You get reviews every 5 years and can be fired if they don't like what they see.
Second, Stop WOKE, means that Florida gets a say in what I teach.
So Florida took away the most important (and for many maybe only) attractive part of the job: academic freedom.
Almost half of Florida faculty are trying to leave. So yeah. Of course they get the bottom of the barrel. That's all that's left for them. With the ability to get a job almost anywhere else in the world you'd have to have extreme circumstances to consider Florida.