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Ask HN: Would you use a job board where every listing is verified?

12•BelVisgarra•1h ago
Online job scams seem increasingly common. I'm curious whether people would actually use a job board where every job listing is verified before being published. Would something like this make you more likely to search for jobs there?

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antonymoose•1h ago
What makes a job verified in this case? You can easily verify a firm exists, but that’s not really the critical part. The question “is this a ghost job with no intention to be filled” is the real struggle.
BelVisgarra•46m ago
Good point. Verifying that a company exists is relatively easy, but confirming that the role is actually open and actively being hired for is definitely harder. I was thinking verification could include confirming the recruiter’s identity and requiring employers to periodically confirm that the position is still active. Ghost jobs are definitely an important challenge.
pavel_lishin•24m ago
> confirming the recruiter’s identity and requiring employers to periodically confirm that the position is still active.

If a position is only listed due to a requirement, and is already basically guaranteed to someone making an internal transfer, knowing the recruiter's identity and having a manager pinky-swear the job offer is real does nothing.

fogzen•51m ago
I want a job board that can filter companies like ATS filters candidates. I want to know salary, benefits, equity comp, tech stack, and workflow practices like CI, test suite time, test coverage, meetings per week, etc.
BelVisgarra•39m ago
That’s an interesting point. Transparency about things like salary, tech stack, and engineering practices would probably make job boards much more useful. It sounds like verification alone might not be enough without better information about the role.
hwhshs•47m ago
It exists. Linkedin seems to have such jobs.
BelVisgarra•44m ago
That’s true, platforms like LinkedIn try to verify companies. What I’m more curious about is whether people would value deeper verification of the actual job posting itself, not just the company.
hwhshs•19m ago
Hmm. That is a hard one. Not sure how you verify it is a genuine job or the JD is accurate. Id like it but not sure it is possible.
raw_anon_1111•39m ago
No.

A job being “verified” doesn’t solve the main problem post around 2023. Every single job opening gets hundreds of openings within the first day of it being opened.

If you are looking for a job as any type of generic developer - full stack, front end, mobile, back end, it’s almost impossible to stand out from the crowd. No, “I reversed a btree on the whiteboard to get into big tech as a mid level developer” doesn’t make you special.

If you do have a specialized set of skills that allows you to stand out from the crowd, you still shouldn’t be randomly spamming job boards and you should be able to sell yourself to someone at the company.

My personal anecdote. In my specialty - AWS + app dev + leading strategic initiatives, I’m very well credentialed (trust me on this) and in a certain niche of AWS, I was considered one of the industry experts at the time (again trust me).

But when randomly spamming job boards on a lark in 2023, I heard nothing.

That was always a plan B while I was waiting for what ended up being three offers via my network and one by reaching out to a company who specialized in my niche of AWS.

I’m not bragging, I am old. I should have a network and credentials.

tryauuum•12m ago
Jesus christ, AWS has niches

This shouldn't surprise me, knowledge of a code base is a competitive advantage. But there is just something depressing about it. Maybe it being closed source and you having to learn it by being burned by undocumented behavior? Please tell more

tmh88j•3m ago
>A job being “verified” doesn’t solve the main problem post around 2023. Every single job opening gets hundreds of openings within the first day of it being opened.

vettery.com, which turned into hired.com, seemed to have a pretty good system that felt like the bumble approach, where employers would reach out to you with interview requests rather than candidates applying to roles. You had to pass some fairly easy leedcode-like tests to even be able to join the platform. Once in you create a profile including what kind of role you were looking for, salary range, and some general likes and dislikes regarding technologies you work with. It looks like they've been sold again and completely dropped that model. Too bad, I liked the approach and got a couple jobs through it.

1123581321•34m ago
Probably not, as you’d essentially be performing the function of a recruiter, but not providing the ability for applicants to skip the initial steps of the hiring process by talking to you. Recruiters already list their open jobs in board-like software.
brudgers•32m ago
To a large degree, the problem with job boards is job boards are a two sided market for lemons

On the one hand, applicants are applicant who cannot find a job through people they know and the companies are companies who cannot find candidates through people they know Good jobs and good employees come through relationships and you cannot automate relationships.

Relationships are hard. Good luck.

dzonga•28m ago
what's the value add ?

what are you offering to candidates - a better interview experience (been tried before etc, those companies closed)

you want to solve a problem, however you are trying solve the problem at a wrong abstraction level -

the problem with the tech market hiring is a coordination problem

bootsmann•17m ago
Imo it might be worthwhile creating a job board that solves the “company-side” issue with the current recruitment process where 200 people will spam AI generated slop CV to every post that opens up. Some kind of account coupled with a ratelimit and you should already deliver some value to people recruiting.
moralestapia•13m ago
The answer is yes, and I speak for everybody. People use job boards anyway, why not use another one with the +1 that, at least, you won't get scammed.

Everyone likes to pretend this and that, "I wouldn't do it", "what problem do you solve", etc. I've published many jobs and they all come like hyenas fighting over scraps.

Don't listen to them, just build the thing; they'll use it, they need the bread, lmao.

bitfilped•11m ago
No, I don't use job boards.

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