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Ask HN: Why there are no actual studies that show AI is more productive?

19•make_it_sure•1h ago
I know there are companies that are highly productive with AI including ours. However, AI skeptics ask for real studies and all of them available now show no real gains.

Many won't care unless you show them an actual study.

So my question is, are there any actual studies about the companies that actually make it work with AI?

Comments

anovikov•1h ago
If AI makes people so much more productive, why aren't there much more apps on the Apple store? Mobile apps involve a lot of dirty, boring scaffolding work which AI automated first thing, 2 years ago easily. It should've been the very first place where productivity boost should've been evident, a year ago at least. But it's just not there. Why not?
dudewhocodes•40m ago
App Store releases are increasing due to a new gold rush on subscription apps. Review times have gotten longer as the review team at Apple is being spammed.

Most of these apps are rudimentary habit trackers, time management apps etc. so not much creativity, much more recycled ideas. More code != better ideas though.

https://www.a16z.news/i/185469925/app-store-engage https://42matters.com/ios-apple-app-store-statistics-and-tre...

whstl•33m ago
Also a lot more clone ideas these days. AI has definitely empowered people to write things from scratch, either as a product to sell or as internal projects inside companies.
therouwboat•15m ago
Yeah, AI people like to talk about how their kid made a mario bros game in a weekend, so big adults should be doing crysis clones in same time, right?
flawn•1h ago
AI can build systems based on static assumptions that the orchestrator (you) gives it. But proper engineering (which is what matters economically much more) is the process of the system's assumptions & requirements changing over time to ensure you have a reliable and consistent service - and that's not something that AI excels at (yet).
austin-cheney•1h ago
Some people prefer evidence before investing large amounts of money and labor. That is not an indication of irrational behavior even if challenging your emotionally invested opinion or result.
Lionga•57m ago
There are a few studies that show perceived increases in productivity (all of them show negativ or almost no real increase, but I don't that is relevant to snake oils salesman).
vjk800•39m ago
We've had the AI tools for maybe two years, and they have only gotten really good in the past half a year or so. For fuck's sake, adopting electricity took like 50 years, why would you expect to see any kind of effect from the AI so quickly? The tools are still developing - rapidly - and people are still figuring out the best usage patterns for it.
whstl•29m ago
I agree. I'd also argue that local effects of productivity were already visible since the start of ChatGPT. I was already using it a lot back then for writing tests and as a "smarter scaffolding", even before Copilot and such. Often cutting the time of doing something from half an hour to a few seconds.

IMO the bottleneck remains the same: doing proper engineering is more than writing code. Even 20 years ago a big corp would spend a few years writing something that a startup would do in weeks (and yes: even 20 years ago) just because of laser-focused requirements, better processes/less bureaucracy, using the right tools for the job and having less friction in tooling. That hasn't changed.

graeber_28927•21m ago
Electricity analogy is fairplay, but ChatGPT had something like 110% global adoption 5 minutes after its release. The infrastructure and the electrical appliances had to catch up, but the Internet is all built out already.

So I think it's fair to be looking at results a few years in.

Andrey Karpathy famously mentioned in an interview with Dwarkesh Patel [0], that the computer doesn't show up on GDP numbers, there's no noticeable jump or change in slope. Even if Excel is so damn fast, people are likely not drawing its full potential, and institutions are likely actively resisting change anyway.

My take is that the general population hasn't found the productive levers yet, they're at the stage where they're happy to drag down and auto generate the date list in Excel, but don't know to adjust diagrams or read function docs, not to even mention VBS scripting. And the enthusiast (dev) community I'd say is starting adoption with internal tools, and shot-in-the-dark apps, but big successes need time to mature in all the other ways (design, reliability, user feedback, marketing...), which comes back to what you said also, that needs time. Product Market Fit isn't happening automatically by chance or good prompting, I would like to think.

[0] https://youtu.be/lXUZvyajciY?is=CBJI4hIr6w_UHVs9

chrisjj•28m ago
> Why there are no actual studies that show AI is more productive?

Beats me. With "AI" being so good at faking stuff, there should by now be ton of such studies :)

IshKebab•26m ago
These sort of things are really hard to study. Combine that with the fact that the AI landscape is so varied and fast moving... It's easy to see why there aren't many studies on it.

There are a mountain of things that we reasonably know to be true but haven't done studies on. Is it beneficial for programming languages to support comments? Are regexes error-prone? Does static typing improve productivity on large projects? Is distributed version control better than centralised (lock based)? Etc.

Also you can't just say "AI improves productivity". What kind of AI? What are you using it for? If you're making static landing pages... yeah obviously it's going to help. Writing device drivers in Ada? Not so much.

AugustoCAS•22m ago
Dora released a report last year: https://dora.dev/research/2025/dora-report/

The gains are ~17% increase in individual effectiveness, but a ~9% of extra instability.

In my experience using AI assisted coding for a bit longer than 2 years, the benefit is close to what Dora reported (maybe a bit higher around 25%). Nothing close to an average of 2x, 5x, 10x. There's a 10x in some very specific tasks, but also a negative factor in others as seemingly trivial, but high impact bugs get to production that would have normally be caught very early in development on in code reviews.

Obviously depends what one does. Using AI to build a UI to share cat pictures has a different risk appetite than building a payments backend.

lucasluitjes•8m ago
The full report can be found here: https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/2025_state_of_ai_a...

That 17% increase is in self-reported effectiveness. The software delivery throughput only went up 3%, at a cost of that 9% extra instability. So you can build 3% faster with 9% more bugs, if I'm reading those numbers right.

Nevermark•19m ago
I think most major efficiency improvements involve more adaptation costs than expected.

Those that can “see” the potential clearly push through the adaptation period over time, but it can be much longer than anyone expects.

Depending on how forward looking a group is, that is a problem, or pure win.

But external measurements won’t be able to distinguish between what may be very fast accumulating forward looking returns/value vs. little or negative benefit, for some time.

I also wonder what the demise of non-adaptive firms does to these numbers. When underlying value lags, despite top line returns, and then disappears due to failure, is that serious previously masked lack of “efficiency” ever accounted for?

—-

This is the dual of measuring running productivity/effort without taking into account long term accumulation of tech debt.

If/when technical debt becomes an obvious drag in performance, it suddenly goes from invisible to overriding significance.

heraldgeezer•15m ago
So... you want a study to prove your ready made hypothesis?
Stronz•15m ago
It might also depend on how the tools are used. In practice a lot of value seems to come from reducing small bits of friction rather than dramatically increasing output.
danr4•11m ago
because you can just look at the commit log
otabdeveloper4•7m ago
Just trust the vibe, bro. One trillion market cap cannot be wrong.

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