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Federal Right to Privacy Act – Draft legislation

https://righttoprivacyact.github.io
29•pilingual•1h ago

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chzblck•1h ago
Bold idea but too much money on the other side to let this gain traction
JumpCrisscross•1h ago
> too much money on the other side to let this gain traction

This view is unfortunately common among regular privacy advocates. That makes them politically useless.

To have a hope, this bill needs to target support outside tech, where civic laziness and nihilism are normalized. I’m not seeing any indication of that strategy here.

Nevermark•1h ago
You are saying exactly, and I mean exactly, what they would want.

Dismissing an avenue of progress outright is to be defeatist or to sow defeat.

AI is going to use all this information against us. Because AI alignment can’t be better than people and corporations deploying the AI.

Lack of privacy is now a gaping security hole, being continually exploited on all our devices, across most sites on the internet.

[EDIT: And the leverage that information enables is being auctioned off to manipulators who we are exposed to continuously. This is just the beginning.]

We need to plug this security hole now, before power centralizes further and we can’t.

chzblck•1h ago
Google, TTD, Applovin, Magnite, Roku, Freewheel, + 100 more adtech and martech companies.

Lets add Facebook, twitter, openai, claude + all the others.

then lets add Flock, Palantir.

Do you honestly think the lobbying from them would be more or less if this bill gained any traction?

Nevermark•1h ago
Of course they are going to resist. That is the terrain.

That doesn’t change the critical need to make progress.

Surrendering power, even when apparently outgunned, is a far more insidious enemy than opposition.

JumpCrisscross•18m ago
> Do you honestly think the lobbying from them would be more or less if this bill gained any traction?

Small communities are thwarting these companies’ datacenter buildouts. The difference is they show up. Defeating privacy in tech is easy because there is no functional opposition.

kg•1h ago
Does anyone know what this part means?

> Require Social Security Numbers to authenticate preventing fraud.

There's a ton of stuff piled into the agenda on this page but that one in particular stumped me. Is it proposing that people (who?) are required to use their SSN to authenticate (for what?) or that the SSN agency is supposed to authenticate... something before doing something?

buzer•23m ago
The bill text is at https://github.com/righttoprivacyact/bill/blob/main/bill/rig...

It contains following:

> (i) Finance and high-risk identity proofing.—No person shall extend credit, originate a loan, open a high-risk financial account, or provide another high-risk financial service based solely on a Social Security number, static identity information, or an uploaded image or copy of a government-issued identity document. A person engaging in such activity shall use multi-factor identity verification reasonably designed to verify both record consistency and claimant control, using less intrusive reasonably reliable methods where available.

> (j) Social Security number not sufficient identity credential.—A Social Security number, taxpayer identifier, or similar identifier shall not by itself be treated as proof of identity for purposes of this Act.

So, to me at least, it sounds like they actually mean "Providers must not use SSN for authentication (including fraud)".

rdevilla•44m ago
Haha. This will accomplish nothing, because the surveillance dragnet is built and used by the people themselves, who deliberately (ab)use the very technologies that enable this breach of privacy at scale. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
Cider9986•42m ago
We have to try.
panny•39m ago
>Update CAN-SPAM for one-click deletion of email addresses from databases.

Then how can I know not to send you another email if I don't have your email flagged in my database to do-not-send?

JoshTriplett•35m ago
You delete the rest of your spam database and replace it with `fn can_send_spam(_: Email) -> bool { false }`. You delete the "can we spam you" checkbox from your checkout page and replace it with "return false".

For legitimate newsletters and similar: you delete any and all forms that allow signing up to receive emails without affirmative consent from that email address that they want to receive mail, and you offer a one-click effective-immediately "unsubscribe" to retract that consent at any time. Then, you can tell if you can send someone mail based on whether they're in your database of people who have explicitly consented to send you mail, and you don't ever send email to anyone else other than one-time consent requests and order-confirmation-style transactional mail.

The only legitimate database of emails is "these people have explicitly confirmed to us that we can email them"; any other database is radioactive waste, delete it.

abound•25m ago
Wouldn't a hash work great for this purpose? I.e.

1. User requests for email alice@example.com to be removed from database

2. Company removes "alice@example.com" from 'emails' table

3. Company adds 00b7d3...eff98f to 'do_not_send' table

Later on, the company buys emails from some other third-party, and Alice's email is on that list. The company can hash all the email addresses they received, and remove the emails with hashes that appear in their 'do_not_send' table.

You'd have to normalize the emails (and salt the hashes), but seems doable?

anonym29•29m ago
Privacy advocates, UNITE!

Just leave your name and email on this contact form on github, so privacy can be solved once and for all!

(/s, but an interesting paradox for pro-privacy initiatives soliciting identifiable public support)

Spivak•11m ago
Defining a picture of your government id not being a sufficient credential for… well anything would probably be enough to kill all these age verification laws and might get some traction legislatively if you frame it right.

It has the benefit of being literally true, whoever thought the was necessary to have a bunch of hard to forge security measures on IDs which require physical inspection probably wouldn't be okay with easily faked scans being accepted.

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