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Corruption erodes social trust more in democracies than in autocracies

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/political-science/articles/10.3389/fpos.2026.1779810/full
79•PaulHoule•1h ago

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retep_kram•39m ago
It looks like a tautology to me. Like: "Corruption erodes social trust in places where social trust exist and is key for the political system."
lm28469•9m ago
I think culture and education play much bigger roles than anything else, all the sources I find show Germany and France having similar level of corruption (on top of being geographically and economically close) but completely different level of "social trust".

China's pretty corrupt politically but the social trust is quite high, the highest outside of northern europe as far as I can tell

https://ourworldindata.org/corruption

https://ourworldindata.org/trust

ekjhgkejhgk•38m ago
Well obviously.
gmerc•31m ago
What you're saying is that with the shift to autocracy, all these trust problems will become manageable?
bryanrasmussen•29m ago
once you know the way to solve problems is to pay off the people with power you start to trust people again, because things are working the way you were told they would.
mrktf•19m ago
or in other words: people in power are corrupt, but they usually are corrupt equally for everybody.
GCUMstlyHarmls•15m ago
for everybody who can pay.*
brookst•30m ago
So following this through, does it mean that autocracy is the preferred government for a country that sleepwalked past the tipping point where corruption is entrenched because the institutions that could uproot it are themselves deeply corrupt?
watwut•27m ago
No, it just means that in autocracy everyone assumes institutions are corrupt, so no trust is broken. If you don't have trust, it cant be broken.
Sharlin•16m ago
Perhaps ironically, there are still institutions that to some extent rely on social trust in autocracies. For example, black market is an institution. As is "bribe economy" – the general understanding that getting X done generally costs you around Y, where Y is not arbitrary. Then there's the whole thing about criminal organizations that typically rely on social cohesion and upholding all kinds of rules.
someguyiguess•14m ago
No. It does not say that. You added that meaning.
bryanrasmussen•30m ago
This does sort of feel like the kind of thing I might think and wonder about and then do a lot of work doing a study and some research and writing up an article and in the end everyone says "yeah, no duh!"
catlifeonmars•22m ago
I can’t speak to this area of research, but studies for obvious things are still quite important. Maximal surprise is not a goal of science, nor is it an effective way to advance knowledge in a field.
dotcoma•16m ago
Corruption erodes social trust where social trust exists.
victorbjorklund•16m ago
Of course. Because in a dictatorship your social trust is based only on other things than the govt while in a democracy your social trust is in the govt as well.
mothballed•14m ago
Corruption makes things more democratic in an autocracy by providing a mechanism of soft power by people not directly in the autocratic office.

Corruption makes things less democratic in a pure democracy by granting more soft power to some individuals' 1/N office ( N= population size).

dzink•12m ago
You have to understand how gears shift from there. Trust is essential for business transactions and specifically for long term investments. You can make massive leaps in technology or medicine or many other areas without trust (a lot of money on a leap means if you don’t trust the other side or the government to keep conditions stable, you won’t see a return).

Now if you are in a high trust society, you may have a lot of leveraged businesses or governments who have gotten loans or permission to do something based on past trust history. If the trust degrades systematically Investors may want returns faster, or interest rates go up, or partnerships don’t happen. That’s why low trust places don’t grow as fast - trust is the oil for growth engines and lack of it is sand for the same.

Corruption also does a lot of small-profit-for-the-corrupt that leads to massive damage to the overall society via second and third order effects. (example: someone stealing copper cables that stop electricity to entire cities for a while).

cucumber3732842•5m ago
Are we living in the same reality?

Look at how business works in the rich west works. Everything is formalized with contracts, risk is portioned out and offloaded to every party under the sun. You bring in people with licenses and accreditation, 3rd party consultants, etc, etc. All of this work and expense is incurred so that if things go wrong then the parties all have precisely defined ways in which they can (expensively) drag the matter through a courtroom and whatever comes of that will be enforced with state violence.

Contrast with (certain parts of) the far east and eastern europe. The west is the low trust environment.

GZGavinZhao•2m ago
Did you meant to write "You *can't* make massive leaps in technology or medicine" instead of *can*?
himata4113•11m ago
People generally are saying the same thing, the more trust exists the more you got to lose.

However, it's not that simple there's a different kind of trust that comes with these types of social structures and they usually trust that as long as they keep their head down nothing will change. You can obviously draw parallels with conservatives here, but in reality people more often than not just want to live their life.

Democracies tend to be a lot more active politically and promote transparency so there is trust that your government is being transparent and that your vote matters. Of course if you find out that your political activism and votes don't accomplish anything due to corruption you check out and start disliking your government. Autocracies don't have political movements to begin with (exceptions apply) so it is way less impactful. There's way more comparisons to be made, but in general they roughly boil down to the same thing.

SanjayMehta•4m ago
BS data is BS. On what basis have they classified each country as a democracy or an autocracy?

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