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Tech hobbyist makes shoulder-mounted guided missile prototype with $96 in parts

https://www.tomshardware.com/3d-printing/tech-hobbyist-makes-shoulder-mounted-guided-missile-prototype-with-usd96-in-parts-and-a-3d-printer-diy-manpads-includes-wi-fi-guidance-ballistics-calculations-optional-camera-for-tracking
85•bilsbie•1h ago

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sidewndr46•1h ago
Here's a link to the actual video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDO2EvXyncE

This appears to be flight stabilized and guided via direct command coming from the launcher. It is not an autonomous guided missile.

throw0101d•1h ago
On the defensive side, see perhaps this phased array radar system with an 20km range:

* https://github.com/NawfalMotii79/PLFM_RADAR

throwa356262•1h ago
What a time to be alive.

In fact, I think I now have all I need to start a war with my neighbours.

notlenin•41m ago
you could have started a war with your neighbors using only sticks and stones - indeed, much of human history is people starting wars with their neighbors using weapons that we today would call primitive.

But now you can start a very destructive war with your neighbors. Thanks to modern technology, you don't have to bother beating your neighbor to death with a wooden club, you now can annihilate them, and basically anything in their immediate vicinity, from a comfortable distance :D

postalcoder•37m ago
For the non-Americans, the modern technology you're referring to is the HOA.
Fire-Dragon-DoL•9m ago
Lol!
defrost•1h ago
Expanding on that, for interest:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phased_array

* https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2003/02/11/294058...

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-role_Electronically_Scan...

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_E-7_Wedgetail

throw0101d•14m ago
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_E-7_Wedgetail

Somewhat interesting in that the Pentagon did not want the E-7 (as a replacement to the E-3):

* https://www.twz.com/air/e-2-hawkeye-replaces-usaf-e-3-sentry...

nominally because it wanted to spend the money on more E-2s, which can operate on smaller and rougher airfields, which would be handy in (e.g.) the Pacific where tiny islands don't necessary 'fancy' runways that the E-7 needs.

But they're actually very handy in tracking tiny targets—like drones—so Australia is sending E-7(s) to the Middle East:

* https://www.twz.com/air/massive-leap-in-ability-to-spot-iran...

Congress rebuffed the Pentagon's attempted to 'completely kill' E-7 acquisitions, and the USAF has now put in an order, and it may be that people now realizing having some number of E-7s may be handy:

* https://breakingdefense.com/2026/03/following-congressional-...

Thrymr•18m ago
How is DIY radar regulated by the FCC?
bagels•7m ago
You need a license for most frequencies.
yorwba•1h ago
Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47385935 (439 points 3 days ago, 388 comments)
CryptoBanker•1h ago
In the two test launches shown in the video, the "missile" doesn't fly straight nor does it demonstrate ability to be "guided" by the launcher towards any particular target.

It's also incredibly slow. There are children's rocket kits that fly significantly faster than this.

embedding-shape•53m ago
Yeah, neither article nor the video itself talks about "accuracy" AFAIK, which seems like a kind of important thing in this whole concept, otherwise it's just a "horizontal rocket launcher" which is cool I guess, but not so close to a MANPAD.

The video is also cut in a way so you cannot tell that the launch seems to have been a complete failure? The rocket is vertical at the last frame: https://i.imgur.com/e2Kld6I.png

nine_k•43m ago
I frankly would care little about the speed; it can always be improved with a better propellant. I would care about a cheap ability to guide the rocket. If it's there, it may be consequential for a real (para)military application.

(A quadcopter is perfectly guidable, but it must be slower than a rocket, and costs more than $96.)

giantg2•41m ago
Guidance systems have speed limitations. Just because it works when slow does not mean it will work if you upgrade propellant.
NoSalt•39m ago
Baby steps ... with a few more contributors, this could be turned into, say, a $500.00 missile that works quite effectively.
robertlagrant•36m ago
> Despite the tech-cool factor of the project, Tom's Hardware does not condone making your own weapons system at home.

Not that this matters for the topic, but I don't see why people have started saying "weapons system" instead of "weapon".

epolanski•31m ago
price bump -> value alignment

layoffs -> right sizing

censorship -> content moderation

tracking -> personalization

secretary -> executive assistant

gambling -> event contracts

inflation -> price pressure

protestors -> domestic terrorists

bailout -> liquidity support

invasion -> stabilization effort

war -> special military operation

war of aggression -> preventive action for national security purposes

lies -> misstatements

chronic20001•8m ago
lmao so true
tristor•30m ago
Guided missile launchers are weapons systems, because the projectile and the launcher each are a component of a complete system which requires significant technology. This is in contrast to a firearm, which has all of the technology in the gun and not the ammunition (for the most part) or more simply a knife or sword.
robertlagrant•23m ago
I suppose I'd say: well, no, a gun's ammunition does something significant, but also even if that disambiguation were necessary in a particular circumstance, this article is not that.
esseph•7m ago
[delayed]
cucumber3732842•35m ago
I think with the proliferation and effectiveness of countermeasures passive target acquisition and first shot accuracy with traditional ballistic methods might be a better place to focus but I understand that's very hard to do nonprofessionally as an individual thanks to the rules and laws.

On the other hand, there is a lot to be said for making them blow their $1k active countermeasures on your $500 missiles before sending a real one in to finish the job. Heck, even just forcing your adversary to treat every sky like it's hostile is worth a lot.

Both approaches are clearly worthy of development.

swiftcoder•6m ago
> $1k active countermeasures

Sure you didn't forget a few zeros there bud?

They are currently trying to shoot down Iranian drones with $4 million Patriot missiles

briandw•26m ago
I think this violates ITAR. You aren't allowed put a guidance system on a rocket. And even if you were allowed to do it for your own fun/education, you certainly aren't allowed to provide instructions to foreign entities about how it do it.
mothballed•13m ago
It's life imprisonment just to possess a launcher (not even the rocket) that is intended to launch a rocket/missile that guides towards an aircraft. And the guy has another youtube short where he explicitly says the intended guidance system is cameras that update the location of a missile and then he shows a real drone and also the emblem of an aircraft as intended targets for this guidance system, while also calling it a MANPADS launcher.

That's before you even get to ITAR.

Hasz•24m ago
Regardless of whether this actually works (I have my doubts, but also understand it might be difficult to get range time on a device like this :)), it exposes a fundamental issue with arms control today.

Small firearms are hundreds of years old. Drones have been commercially available for many years and are easily modifiable into something that is 80% as good as what is currently being fielded in Ukraine.

It is not technically feasible to restrict someone from assembling basic, non-firearm-specific components to build a firearm. In the US, there is an increasing effort at the state level to serialize, restrict, and document individual firearm parts. However, an 80% good barrel can be fabricated at home, a 100% as good receiver can be printed on any recent 3D printer, and the rest of the parts (bolt, trigger assembly, etc) can be designed around easy home fabrication (see FGC-9). There is no practical way to trace, regulate, or stop behavior.

It isn't possible to restrict someone from building a capable drone either. The firmware is opensource, the parts can be ordered from almost any marketplace, and an energetic payload can easily be made by any amateur chemist from chemicals in any hardware or camping store. EW is often touted as a solution, but is frequently beaten by tethered drones. Cheap COTS IMUs are getting good enough to provide surprisingly accurate short-term INS, to say nothing of autonomous systems that need no external input past initial targeting.

I personally think this is a far bigger risk than most countries realize, largely because they are 10-15 years behind the technology. I believe this will force most governments into spending an order of magnitude more to defend their institutions at every level, not just core government security.

At least in the US, these threat vectors will absolutely be used to justify intrusions into civil liberties, but no amount of infringement will be able to even partially mitigate these threats. I think this should start to play out over the next 5-10 years.

idiotsecant•20m ago
I am certainly pro T2A but your argument doesn't hold - laws to regulate arms are not effective only in a binary way - if they reduce the number of arms they are doing what they say on the tin.

Whether we should be trying to regulate arms is another issue.

mothballed•17m ago
Obama and Biden were the best gun salesman the USA has had in awhile. It's not clear they reduce the number of arms, depending on the culture. In USA culture we've seen the number of arms in civilian hands expand even as regulations increase.
bparsons•14m ago
We might want to prepare ourselves for the fact that the Strait of Hormuz might not be reopened to US traffic any time in the near future.
swiftcoder•11m ago
When everyone started working on 3D-printed guns, I was sitting here thinking that if it comes to actual revolution, one is going to need anti-tank/anti-air a whole lot more than (relatively easy to acquire) small arms... Nice to see movement on this front