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Local Stack Archived their GitHub repo and requires an account to run

https://github.com/localstack/localstack
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garrettjoecox•1h ago
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
stanac•52m ago
So is local stack dead? Is this situation the lesser evil? Or is it not dead and we will see a villain rise?

Edit: I see now, they have commercial offerings: https://www.localstack.cloud/pricing

I am not sure if my corp will be willing to pay or tell us to find something else, but I use it everyday, our integration tests depend on local stack.

ksajadi•1h ago
Complete coincidence but today I was looking for an AWS mock for E2E tests. Not the whole AWS footprint but just a few services and looked at LocalStack for the first time.

It took Claude to put together a service (with web interface and everything) for those 2 services 15 mins.

I’m not claiming my experience is translated universally but perhaps if your core competency is something like LocalStack you need to think about alternative business ideas.

supriyo-biswas•1h ago
Well LLMs are trained on code like those from Localstack, and a lot of them can be emulated to first order as CRUD operations, so its rather unsurprising. It does mean that things do become difficult for pure tech SaaS businesses like this one, and as also seen with Tailwind.
matt_callmann•1h ago
What are the alternatives? I primarily used it for S3 and SQS emulation.
kadoban•1h ago
I haven't evaluated it deeply yet, but I saw https://github.com/hectorvent/floci
pfix•1h ago
I've fiddled around with https://docs.getmoto.org/en/latest/docs/server_mode.html

It didn't support the one thing I wanted but it was so easy to find the right place in the code, I was happy. Never got to continue it though or turn it into a PR

luis_cho•1h ago
I am about to test this one http://docs.getmoto.org/en/latest/index.html
cyberax•1h ago
For S3 emulation, I'm using rustfs. It's very compact and fast to run, and you can just start it with `docker run` inside tests if you don't want to set up a full integration test harness.

I used an SQS-on-top-of-Redis emulation before, but I can't recommended it now (no updates for 6 years).

bytK7•49m ago
I haven't used this yet, but there's also https://github.com/robotocore/robotocore. It came up on HN a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47420619.
atls•46m ago
It's not a complete replacement, but if you're in a Python ecosystem, you might find Moto to be of interest.

https://github.com/getmoto/moto

strickjb9•41m ago
MinIO is a drop in replacement for S3. I plan on switching to this as soon as I can. For now, I just pinned localstack to 4.14.0
zanecodes•38m ago
>MinIO

I have some bad news for you: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47000041

kaelin•11m ago
It's comedic that they said that right after Minio pulled the same thing as localstack.
watermelon0•24m ago
RustFS is a good and simple-to-usr alternative for MinIO.
iaaan•1h ago
I evangelized localstack at my company a while back, but as we integrated it deeper into our CI test runs we started running into more and more things they don't support, and it feels impossible to get any attention from their support/devs despite being paying customers.

Their Cloud Pod and ephemeral instance features in particular feel pretty half-baked and not very useful at the moment.

Fun tangent: it's pretty easy to write a crack for the pro version; we actually used that for about a month as a pilot to confirm that it would do what we needed it to.

redwood•48m ago
I too was excited about the idea originally but then started realizing that they will have an increasingly untenable service area to try and maintain and mimic and it was just never going to work out.
tecleandor•1h ago
They still have linked their OpenCollective account, where they have raised $10K and still have a balance of $5K. [0]

It's not a lot in the great scheme of things, but, have they been using a platform that's seemingly built for communities and open source to bootstrap their business?

Because this is not a 'open core' situation. They just closed the repo and ran away. If they had that idea all along, I feel like it hasn't be very, let's say, ethical.

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  0: https://opencollective.com/localstack#category-ABOUT
armchairhacker•34m ago
“Open core” is when part of the product is open-source and part is private.

Was a significant part of the product private before this announcement?

If not, someone can fork the repo and immediately launch a competitor (FOSS or paid). (Technically even if so, except it wouldn’t be immediate, and if they’d have to re-implement too much, it would be easier to start from scratch.)

thefreeman•10m ago
yes, there were a large number of AWS products and features that were only available with a subscription
thayne•9m ago
Yes there were significant portions that were proprietary before this, including support for some services.

The parts that were open source might still be worth forking, but you would probably need to change every occurrence of the name to avoid trademark issues.

hungryhobbit•15m ago
Wait, so a company shared their work with the public for however long, then decided to leave what was shared up ... but stop sharing ... and you're upset?!?

They did everything properly by the rules of OSS, decided it wasn't in their best interest to keep doing OSS, and left all their code available, as required by OSS. They were a textbook good participant.

Meanwhile, 99% of companies never open source anything: why aren't you complaining about how "unethical" they are?

jayofdoom•33m ago
More reason to run your infrastructure using open source software in your own datacenter. OpenStack has been around for closing in on two decades, running clouds and being mostly governance-drama-free.

It's not surprising that a proprietary ecosystem built on open source software locked up behind a gate doesn't make a worthwhile ecosystem for building open source tooling against.

hrmtst93837•19m ago
Running OpenStack for this is a massive project cost compared to spinning up a few local services, and the operational mess is on a different planet from "I need to fake a handful of API calls on my laptop". Self-hosting still means updates, drivers, and k8s/OpenStack glue code. Nobody sane are doing that for local dev, use Minikube or Podman if you want DIY and still like weekends.
the_mitsuhiko•28m ago
Did localstack never get bit enough that a fork would emerge or am I missing an obvious one?
stitched2gethr•17m ago
Try proxymock. It's not open source but it is free to use.
jzelinskie•14m ago
An emulator for integration testing against the major cloud providers seems like it should:

1. be table-stakes for a SDK from the cloud providers themselves

2. have the obvious home in a foundation like the CNCF; how else could you be "cloud native" afterall?