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Ask HN: Why isn't using AI in production considered stupid?

10•spl757•1h ago
Just as the title says, isn't it stupid to run AI in a production environment before we have addressed some pretty major fucking problems with it?

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spl757•1h ago
Why do we find the unreliabilty and resulting hallicinations as acceptable for AI in production? Can you imagine if Postgres, Apache, Nginx, hell even the Linux kernel were allowed to be use in production if they occassionally went insane?
CrimsonRain•1h ago
You can use the same logic for most humans yet they are in production since birth :)
jeffreygoesto•1h ago
Well, but agents today are pretty much like Fitzcarraldo...
drekipus•40m ago
No one gets a newborn to configure nginx
spl757•14m ago
I don't think that is an apt comparison.
vrighter•1h ago
it is considered stupid by tons of people. And their problems are intrinsic and can't really be solved
spl757•1h ago
Tons of people, apparently, aren't enough. I guess I'm just tired of seeing post after post on HN about people complaining that their use of AI in production isn't reliable.

It makes me want to pull out the hair I used to have an scream into the wilderness and eat a twinkie.

al_borland•57m ago
It is stupid. Where I work, management has been pushing the idea of AI pretty hard, but they have repeatedly said it should not be used in production and a human needs to be in the loop.

I think the overall push, even when it doesn’t make sense is also stupid, but at least it’s tempered with a little logic to keep production a bit safer.

I get great joy from reading stories of AI in prod gone wrong.

hactually•52m ago
what do you mean by "run AI"?

as in, providing self hosted models? or running Claude code/Codex? or using it for support? or what?

spl757•8m ago
AI is an umbrella term. All AI models can hallucinate. There has been no solution to this problem. Until that problem is resolved, it is, in my opinion, something that only an idiot would run in production. I read about a company that had their whole codebase wiped out because they gave an agent access to be able to do that.
prohobo•48m ago
Depends on the problem-space doesn't it? If you're making CRUD apps, then go wild IMO. If you're making rocket launch systems, maybe don't?
spl757•6m ago
The problem that I see is that no one and no company seems to be making that distinction.
serf•22m ago
a hammer requires an operator, so it's rarely used wrong, and if something goes wrong the operator can intervene. sometimes a thumb will be struck, but usually that will result in a painful lesson that prevents future strikes.

the timed/automated hammer forging machine continues working regardless of whether or not an operator is at the helm. it will chop as many hands as you feed it.

we are at the point where a lot of value can be leveraged from AI by using it like a hand tool (a hammer), and in doing so one will avoid most of the chopped hands that a fully automatic factory has to offer.

spl757•5m ago
What if the hammer has a problem where the handle breaks off randomly? Same thing happens with AI. Sometimes it breaks, randomly, and without any way of predicting it.
jqpabc123•20m ago
US corporate culture is overly focused on short term effects. Why isn't this considered stupid?

Short term --- AI can generate code so let's fire those pesky, expensive developers.

Long term --- AI is terrible at maintaning the code it has generated. We need more human developers who can understand and fix this mess.

https://towardsdatascience.com/the-black-box-problem-why-ai-...

spl757•4m ago
I agree that that is all true. And exceedingly fucking stupid.
jaredsohn•16m ago
This question is too vague to answer.
spl757•10m ago
No, it's not. The problem is all AI hallucinates. Therefore, it is guaranteed to be confidently wrong. Until the problem of hallucinations are solved, anyone using AI in a production environment is an idiot, which is, of course, my personal opinion. But it seems pretty cut and dry to me.
jaredsohn•3m ago
Your original post (and even after this comment I think) was vague in that AI can be used in a lot of different ways in 'production' - to generate code, to manage deployment / scripts, or as part of a feature that uses inference.

Also, I think calling people idiots/stupid doesn't match the spirit of this forum.

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