Iran tweets about taking down an American jet basically daily. By their count we are down 40 f-35s, 4 aircraft carriers and thousands of MQ-9s.
ceejayoz•1h ago
> That tweet is from yesterday.
That's when the shootdown happened, yes.
> Iran tweets about taking down an American jet basically daily.
Sure. We have two sets of demonstrable liars here. See, for example, the E-3 Sentry that got blown up; it took leaked photos for that to be admitted.
And don't get me started on the several times in the last few months we've "obliterated" Iran's nuclear capacity and missiles and whatnot only to be told it's time to do it again.
e-khadem•1h ago
The claim being addressed is a shootdown over Qeshm island, which is the biggest island just west of the strait of Hormuz. The current CSAR operations are happening somewhere in the Khuzestan province. Probably somewhere within the 150 km radius of [1] based on online footage of the C-130 flying over.
[1] 31.941606, 50.311765
buildsjets•1h ago
And they have not edited it or taken it down... why?
e-khadem•51m ago
Because almost all of the people inside Iran have been disconnected for the past 35 days [1]. And believe it or not, they are texting these news live to all mobile phones on a daily basis as well. Some regime supporters believe it, because the want to believe it, they need to believe it. Just in the past 24 hours I have received 5 different messages from different organizations claiming victory and damage to US / Israel assets.
Just for a quick laugh, look at the official (Iranian) president's letter to the American people published yesterday [2]. The font changes between the paragraphs!
Very cool that you have a side hustle as a US fighter jet pilot!
user_7832•1h ago
Hate to say it and sound so "conspiracy-like", but I no longer can trust what the current US administration is saying. Ever since the path of a hurricane was redrawn with a sharpie, it's been... unusual.
2OEH8eoCRo0•1h ago
Your comment is a perfect setup for the cynicism olympics where people rush to say you could never trust the govt.
lazide•1h ago
Has there been a time where (after later facts came out) they were wrong?
calculatte•1h ago
Or the bootlicker olympics for those who want everyone else to ignore the constant lies because they think bigger, more powerful government is utopian.
ifyoubuildit•1h ago
Do you have some reasons for hope for the cynics in the crowd?
2OEH8eoCRo0•59m ago
Not really. Just that trust ain't binary and the govt is made of people. I don't like this admin but this too shall pass. Cultivate your garden. Electing bad people has consequences.
readthenotes1•1h ago
That has been (rightly) said every year there has been a current US administration.
It is not a conspiracy theory if it's true.
And no, it's not "cynicism Olympics", it's observation.
2OEH8eoCRo0•1h ago
Right on cue!
serf•53m ago
I wouldn't be so pleased with myself over such "You will get wet in a rainstorm." style predictions.
truths from different angles that are at odds with one another produce mistrust and thoughts of conspiracy. We have more of that now than we have ever had, ever. It doesn't take Nostradamus to point to the trend.
tl;dr : Gee, where did this mistrust in the current government come from? I'd point but I don't have that many hands.
dragonwriter•1h ago
The US military is in the middle of a top-level political purge; both honesty and competence as an institution will be below normal levels for the forseeable future, and honesty about sensitive operations during wartime is never much even as a baseline.
peyton•59m ago
The US military is civilian-controlled, and we had an election. A “political purge” is generally accepted to be something that happens within a political party to consolidate a dictator’s power. Not a popular election where people vote to put new people in charge, which necessarily means removing the old people in charge.
surgical_fire•43m ago
I am not from the US, so I don't really care about how it does its things.
I definitely don't expect political purges on bureaucracy in my country of residence after elections, and I would consider it an extremely bad sign.
Typically the new party replaces the top levels; this is expected. Director of something, secretary of this and that, minister of something else, etc.
The actual bureacrats doing day to day work typically are not political agents. Getting rid of them for political reasons indicate loss of know-how, tacit knowledge, and competence, in the name of blind loyalty.
sco1•4m ago
> Not a popular election where people vote to put new people in charge, which necessarily means removing the old people in charge.
More than a year after they took office and in the middle of a war?
AnimalMuppet•51m ago
All true. So we should expect it, but we still shouldn't normalize it.
tristanj•1h ago
No, that tweet is from 20 hours ago, and is about a separate incident which happened two days ago over Qeshm Island in the Strait of Hormuz.
The current F-15 crash incident happened today near the city of Lali, in Iran’s Khuzestan Province.
During the entire gulf war (Iraq, 1990-91), only two F-15s were shot down via surface-to-air engagement. At the time, Baghdad was known to have the highest density of SAM protection out of any city in the world.
An F-15 being shot down in Iran after weeks of strategic bombing of their anti-air defense systems is not a good sign.
flowerthoughts•55m ago
Surely SAMs have improved since 1991? Have the F-15s improved significantly? (I know nothing about military stuff.)
rhcom2•1h ago
ceejayoz•1h ago
https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2039805134704660622
vorpalhex•1h ago
Iran tweets about taking down an American jet basically daily. By their count we are down 40 f-35s, 4 aircraft carriers and thousands of MQ-9s.
ceejayoz•1h ago
That's when the shootdown happened, yes.
> Iran tweets about taking down an American jet basically daily.
Sure. We have two sets of demonstrable liars here. See, for example, the E-3 Sentry that got blown up; it took leaked photos for that to be admitted.
And don't get me started on the several times in the last few months we've "obliterated" Iran's nuclear capacity and missiles and whatnot only to be told it's time to do it again.
e-khadem•1h ago
[1] 31.941606, 50.311765
buildsjets•1h ago
e-khadem•51m ago
Just for a quick laugh, look at the official (Iranian) president's letter to the American people published yesterday [2]. The font changes between the paragraphs!
[1] https://mastodon.social/@netblocks/116339631989805542
[2] https://x.com/drpezeshkian/status/2039418009052119190?s=20
cpursley•1h ago
Very cool that you have a side hustle as a US fighter jet pilot!
user_7832•1h ago
2OEH8eoCRo0•1h ago
lazide•1h ago
calculatte•1h ago
ifyoubuildit•1h ago
2OEH8eoCRo0•59m ago
readthenotes1•1h ago
It is not a conspiracy theory if it's true.
And no, it's not "cynicism Olympics", it's observation.
2OEH8eoCRo0•1h ago
serf•53m ago
truths from different angles that are at odds with one another produce mistrust and thoughts of conspiracy. We have more of that now than we have ever had, ever. It doesn't take Nostradamus to point to the trend.
tl;dr : Gee, where did this mistrust in the current government come from? I'd point but I don't have that many hands.
dragonwriter•1h ago
peyton•59m ago
surgical_fire•43m ago
I definitely don't expect political purges on bureaucracy in my country of residence after elections, and I would consider it an extremely bad sign.
Typically the new party replaces the top levels; this is expected. Director of something, secretary of this and that, minister of something else, etc.
The actual bureacrats doing day to day work typically are not political agents. Getting rid of them for political reasons indicate loss of know-how, tacit knowledge, and competence, in the name of blind loyalty.
sco1•4m ago
More than a year after they took office and in the middle of a war?
AnimalMuppet•51m ago
tristanj•1h ago
The current F-15 crash incident happened today near the city of Lali, in Iran’s Khuzestan Province.
golfer•1h ago
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/american-fighter-jet-f15e-downe...