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When War Crimes Rhetoric Becomes Battlefield Reality

https://www.justsecurity.org/135797/war-crimes-rhetoric-power-plants-iran/
23•dogscatstrees•2h ago

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drivebyhooting•46m ago
What’s the plan for opening transit through the strait? Let Iran hold it hostage and ransom tankers through? That seems absolutely unacceptable.

How about each country sets up a blockade and demands their toll for safe passage?

The only sensible strategy is to make IRGC capitulate.

ekjhgkejhgk•43m ago
How about listening to their demands? This was triggered by the US and Israel, it's on them to fix this mess.
drivebyhooting•25m ago
Pay them reparations and allow a toll system that will destroy the petrodollar? That’s preposterous. Why should USA accept that?
Ylpertnodi•18m ago
Because the usa caused it.
defrost•15m ago
The US ignored all their own intelligence of decades, struck a country during negotiations, and the head of state and head of war are openly calling for war crimes while channeling all the worst aspects of former Air Force General Curtis LeMay without any of LeMay's experience.
shermozle•9m ago
You broke it, you bought it!
jjgreen•7m ago
Too late: https://archive.is/UpE2M
simonh•34m ago
And the way to make the broader million strong Iranian military fanatical religious death cult capitulate is....
drivebyhooting•21m ago
The civilian price will be terrible. But this could be one way: Destroy all power plants and desalination plants. Rations will be given out by “peace keepers” on the condition that IRGC members surrender and are taken prisoner. Missiles and drones can be exchanged for rations as well.
CrzyLngPwd•16m ago
Iran depends on desalination for around 3% of its drinking water, and has said that any such attacks on its infrastructure will see the same to any country that has support the USA/Israel military actions.

USA allies in the region will be largely uninhabitable, since they depend on power and desalination for their existence.

Still, maybe that is what Trump, the crazy bastard, wants.

CrzyLngPwd•39m ago
It's not the first time the USA has committed war crimes in its 222 to 230+ years of war, and it won't be the last either.
enjeyw•30m ago
What I find tricky to reason about here is that whether destroying infrastructure comes down to "whether the military advantage outweighs the impact to civilians", and as far as I can tell, there's no robust way to assess this.

Indeed, this seems to be what supporters of Trump are leaning on, as you can make the argument that _any_ bridge, or _any_ powerplant could hypothetically be used by the military, and that this conflict is sufficiently important for the livelihood of people in America/"The West" that doing anything that even slightly helps tips the odds is justifiable.

globalnode•25m ago
exactly, they can argue forever that their point of view was justified.
graemep•15m ago
Interesting requirement. Where does that leave a lot of other wars? Russia has been attacking Ukrainian infrastructure for a while. Ukraine has been attacking Russian oil production and ports, especially recently. I seem to recall a lot of infrastructure destroyed in the US invasion of Iraq. There have been a lot of wars since WW2 and I find it had to believe that those than involved bombing were all restricted to military targets.

A lot of war is about economics and logistics.

globalnode•27m ago
dont worry as soon as trump is gone americas sycophant allies will be clamouring to get back to some sort of pre-trump status quo, but i doubt we're ever going back to 100% pre-trump prices.

whoops, was responding to someone but accidentally top levelled this comment, which id rather leave here even though it lacks context -- something about levies on ship transit, which isnt really that much different to global tariffs is it?

readthenotes1•3m ago
I keep wondering what Iran planned to do with its 440kg of U-235 enriched to 60% when most nuclear reactors need only 5% and some needing only up to 20%.

https://armscontrolcenter.org/irans-stockpile-of-highly-enri...

https://armscontrolcenter.org/uranium-enrichment-for-peace-o...

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