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Show HN: Orange Juice – Small UX improvements that make HN easier to read

http://oj-hn.com/
33•latchkey•1h ago

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Imustaskforhelp•1h ago
I use refined Hacker news Extension.

https://github.com/plibither8/refined-hacker-news#highlights

It might be beneficial to tell me what the difference between these two can be? A lot of the features from my first glance (I can be totally wrong though) are within HN refined.

I would really appreciate a short summary of differences. Personally I am really happy by HN refined though so kudos to @plibither8

latchkey•31m ago
Refined hasn't received an update in 4 years.

https://github.com/plibither8/refined-hacker-news/issues/135...

I used refined for years as well. Great product, but the underlying code was meh, and the author abandoned it. If you're using refined today, you're experiencing a lot of bugs as the HN DOM has changed over time.

I maintained my own fork for a long time but finally motivated myself to try out AI assisted coding and this is what came out of it. It isn't a port, it is a clean rewrite from the ground up.

I took every feature that I enjoyed from refined, re-implemented it from scratch, with a totally different architecture that allows much more control over the DOM and runs a whole lot faster.

I had AI write hundreds of of unit tests, so that we can make sure that bugs don't appear in the future. I also fixed a whole ton of edge cases along the way.

The entire deployment, all the way to the browser stores, is fully automated with CI/CD, so that we know that the supply chain is safe.

In other words, you might as well migrate. If there is something missing that you enjoyed, file an issue, or even better... a PR.

lagniappe•55m ago
>AI-assisted, not AI-slop

>AI is used as a pair programmer to speed up implementation and review, but architecture and final decisions are human. Tested, not vibe coded

>The extension has extensive unit test coverage, quality checks, and automation through CI/CD. This project is intentionally not vibe coded.

I felt non-specific mixed feeling reading this. Seemed unnecessary to say that so prominently twice. Be confident. If you do a good job it shows in more ways than the code.

Isolated_Routes•36m ago
This is helpful! Thank you
latchkey•26m ago
:heart:
cobbman•36m ago
I want hacker news UX to stay as it is, mostly, but these are features I'd welcome.
latchkey•29m ago
Thanks. My feeling as well.
maxloh•34m ago
I built a Stylus theme to make Hacker News's UI more modern.

Some screenshots:

https://gist.github.com/user-attachments/assets/95e4b14d-b67...

https://gist.github.com/user-attachments/assets/643969af-89c...

Repo:

https://github.com/mon-jai/modern-hacker-news

latchkey•30m ago
This is exactly what I don't want my extension to become. I don't want a new UX, I want the existing UX to be enhanced.
altairprime•33m ago
Latchkey, would you be comfortable with HN adopting your dark mode styling as a user choice someday, if they came around to liking it? I really like it and I think it’s in the spirit of the site.
latchkey•19m ago
Thanks! A lot of it is AI with my own input, but I think it did a great job.

The code is all open source and people can do with it what they want. It is GPLv3, but I'd special license it to them as MIT without question.

altairprime•8m ago
[delayed]
tomComb•16m ago
That would be great! Please do.
satvikpendem•11m ago
I'm pretty sure that will never happen, as it would've happened already by now. People can and do already use custom CSS or Dark Reader for dark mode.
Novosell•32m ago
Did you ai generate the Chrome and Firefox logo? That isn't what they look like, or have ever looked like, from what I know.
latchkey•30m ago
Yes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
DrBenCarson•25m ago
…why?
latchkey•21m ago
I'd rather focus on building features vs. caring about logos.

Update: I'm having AI fix this since you guys want to focus so hard on it. Of all things... lol.

FIXED!

59nadir•17m ago
Why not just use the actual logos? It's not as if you *have* to generate them.
semolino•15m ago
Taking shortcuts with design tends to result in users trusting your project less.
dartharva•2m ago
You need AI to just replace the svg?
ipsum2•30m ago
It looks pretty good! I'm using it now and its a meaningful improvement to the existing site.

Out of curiosity, why did you make a new Github account for the extension instead of developing it on your own account?

latchkey•26m ago
Thanks!

Because I see this becoming bigger than me and a separate organization made sense. There is a super thin backend component right now too. There is the potential to also add in some extra features that require a server/db. I'm kind of inspired by the atuin model of things.

I've got a LONG list of features I'd like to implement over time.

xydac•30m ago
its funny how us developers build varied UX, but nothing beats the simplicity of HN's default experience. quick and bloat free.
latchkey•26m ago
That's the beauty of this extension, it keeps things simple.
greenpizza13•25m ago
I can't figure out how to toggle to Light Mode (maybe it uses the system setting?). HN is something I prefer to be in Light Mode but everything else in dark. Gonna remove until this is configurable.
latchkey•18m ago
Defaults to system. The toggle is in the top right corner of the navbar next to your karma.
Klonoar•19m ago
What on earth is that Firefox logo...?
latchkey•4m ago
FIXED
ramon156•14m ago
> Why Install Orange Juice?

> Because Hacker News is great, but repetitive UI friction adds up. Orange Juice keeps the original feel while removing the things that cost you time every day.

That does not convince me to use your app? This is like calling someone's Kia shit and instead telling them to buy a Tesla, but just stating that it's better.

I'll stick to HN, thanks.

latchkey•8m ago
Sure. What language would convince you?
wesz•9m ago
The improvements are nice, that's for sure. But i checked out github and it looks like overengineered ai slop, you could implement all the features with 1/10 of the code. But again, nobody cares nowadays which makes me sad. You even generated chrome/firefox logos using ai...
latchkey•8m ago
How is it over-engineered slop? Happy to improve things, but I thought it was pretty clean.
satvikpendem•9m ago
"Tested, not vibe coded" yet you mention the AI has written all the tests. This extension may not be vibe coded but it's close to that, it seems. Regardless it seems to work well, I replaced the older Refined Hacker News extension with this, which seems like where you initially sourced the code from as the features are very similar, 1:1 even for some.

I also use this extension HNRelevant (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hnrelevant) which shows a list of similar posts, you might want to add that as an optional feature as well.

What's the tech stack, pure TS? You also might want to migrate from Biome to oxc, I did recently and it plays well with Vite+ (or just move to Vite+) directly.

Noticed a bug, once I edit my own comment and go back to the main post, I show up as [op] not you. Also I should be able to edit my post inline not be moved to a separate page.