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White House staff told not to place bets on prediction markets

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgld65x396go
60•chrischapman•1h ago

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113•1h ago
Whew! Glad that's sorted.
mechoblast•59m ago
Surely half millions on prediction markets is pennies compared to what is getting made on oil futures/stocks.
enoint•54m ago
You’d think so, but these types of people are afraid of stocks or options and find prediction websites easier to use.
Tangurena2•37m ago
It is easier for the SEC to investigate futures, stocks & options. Some of the prediction/gambling markets use crypto and do not participate in "Know Your Customer" regulations.
derwiki•26m ago
They’re doing money transmission and they’re not doing KYC? Is that illegal or “really frowned upon”?
rf15•19m ago
Honestly not that big a difference here. Both can be loosely interpreted as gambling, especially with the same rough upsides (money without production or consumption!) downsides (addiction, critical existence failure of all your savings) and the corruption and perverse incentives they invite.
Havoc•51m ago
It’s laughable that it’s even necessary to tell them.

Hey don’t abuse privileged workplace information for personal gain isn’t exactly a fresh notion.

Imagine if professionals like lawyers and accountants operated like that.

asHqt14•49m ago
It is understandable that they require coaching on this issue when betting markets are being deregulated and Trump Jr. is invested in Polymarket.
p-o•38m ago
I'm sure it's a preventive measure and no one placed bets to enrich themselves in the last 12 months...
mcs5280•38m ago
*unless they give the big guy a 50% cut
josefresco•30m ago
Investor highlights for each platform:

Kalshi: Sequoia Capital, Paradigm, Andreessen Horowitz (a16z), Y Combinator, Charles Schwab, Henry Kravis (KKR), and CapitalG (Alphabet).

Polymarket: Intercontinental Exchange (ICE - parent of the NYSE), Founders Fund (Peter Thiel), Vitalik Buterin, and 1789 Capital (Donald Trump Jr.).

PredictIt: Primarily supported by Aristotle International (a political tech firm) and historically Victoria University of Wellington.

Donald Trump Jr.: Prominent investor in Polymarket through his firm, 1789 Capital, and serves as a paid strategic advisor to Kalshi.

The current CFTC Chairman, Michael Selig, created a 35-member panel to draft new regulations for prediction markets. This panel includes the CEOs of the platforms they regulate, such as Shayne Coplan (Polymarket) and Tarek Mansour (Kalshi).

twelvedogs•27m ago
Only the top guys are allowed to do insider trading! You guys are making it very very slightly more obvious!!
ahartmetz•26m ago
Does that include friends and cousins? Asking for a friend or cousin.
exabrial•22m ago
While we’re at it, how about all Congress?
adabyron•16m ago
You need to apply it to staff as well and also the judicial branch and all of their staff. Then to all of their family as well.

The way I understand insider trading is usually prosecuted is you find out who made the bet & then you have to track down their communications to see if they got tipped off.

bcjdjsndon•17m ago
When you elect a bunch of TV wannabes to run your country this is what happens.
keviniam•15m ago
I don't understand why anybody without access to serious inside information is currently betting on prediction markets. It's clear that insiders are absolutely going to eat your lunch. So who are the suckers who are losing all this money?

I guess this isn't true for all things you might bet on, but it seems to be true for a lot of them.

ceejayoz•14m ago
> So who are the suckers who are losing all this money?

Random people who saw an ad or their favorite influencer shilling it.

Like when my neighbors started asking me about NFTs.

JKCalhoun•8m ago
Kind of what I was thinking. If it is essentially InsidrBetz.com why bet at all? This is the kind of thing that could (should, anyway) kill the industry.
jack_pp•3m ago
Arrogance / hubris. Some people even if they know it's rigged will believe they know which side the insiders are on
seanalltogether•3m ago
I remember reading something awhile ago in regards to why people were investing in NFTs when it seemed so clear they were a scam. The gist of it was that it's easy to get into cryptocurrency, but it's hard to get out. KYC, taxes, currency fees, etc are enough of a barrier that many people would rather just keep those assets in virtual space. Polymarket is the answer to the question "well what else am I gonna do with this crypto"
feverzsj•9m ago
Isn't that in the law?
cyanydeez•8m ago
If it were in the law, which part of the justice system do you think would be:

1. Capable

2. Desirous of

3. Competently followed

daveguy•3m ago
It is the law in SEC regulated markets like NYSE and NASDAQ. But prediction markets are grifty garbage. Insider trading laws only apply to regulated markets.
qsort•8m ago
insane they needed to be told

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