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Pope Leo XIV denounces the 'delusion of omnipotence' he says fuels the Iran war

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/11/pope-leo-xiv-denounces-the-delusion-of-omnipotence-he-says-fuels-the-us-israeli-war-in-iran-00868142
57•achierius•2h ago

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wewewedxfgdf•1h ago
Not works the common people would grasp. Politicians need to learn to speak in words people understand.
Imustaskforhelp•1h ago
I am not christian so pardon me if I am wrong but wouldn't that be the catholic (pastors?) who can preach this message in the the words people understand and I suppose (internet influencers/people online?) will come to sum it up.

Also Pope has to be diplomatic, he can't say for example things like "Trump sucks" words people understand but there is a subtle undertone in the message which convey that.

shiandow•51m ago
Bit of a strange criticism for someone who historically mostly speaks Latin.
tao_oat•50m ago
The Pope is not a politician.
thrance•48m ago
Hell no, we're already ruled by functionally illiterate [1] morons, dumbing down the discourse further is the very last thing we need. Stupidity should be made shameful again.

[1] Using the words of Trump's own biographer, Michael Wolff, here.

cjfd•42m ago
From the quotes in the article it sounds pretty simple. These are words that everyone can understand. Of course, the fascist right is attempting to 'inform' the public at a level where even two-syllable words are a bit too complicated. But maybe the general public also should attempt to be at a level a bit higher than cattle.
unconscionable•1h ago
Pope Leo XiV also condemned "jihadist violence" but that didn’t make for a headline.
oncallthrow•1h ago
Yes, because that quite literally isn’t “news”. Western leaders including the pope have condemned jihadism for decades.
gambiting•57m ago
First of all - of course it does, many publications have reported on it too and it made headlines. You can say it didn't make HN's front page, but don't say it didn't make headlines.

Second of all - popes have made more or less clear comments about "jihadist violence" for decades now - in a way, it's nothing new, pope condemning violence in some part of the world is just what he does on Sundays.

What is new is a "christian" country waging war "in the name of Jesus Christ", to the extent that is happening right now. Minister of Defence saying that everything is preordained and if missiles fail on infidels then clearly it's gods plan. The pentagon preacher saying that since the bible ordered israelites to kill entire cities to purge them of sin, then obviously a missile killing 100+ schoolgirls is part of god's plan too, in the scale of things described in the bible it's hardly a blip.

That's why the Pope is speaking out in a way that few other popes have spoken out before. The previous wars in the middle east have killed 1M+ people but the portrayal as "holy war" is new(or returning, depending on how you look at it).

Good read on why this situation is new:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/apr/...

b112•52m ago
Hanging a comment here, not directly replying.

Indeed. I see things like this:

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/i...

Where the current Iranian government is slaughtering its own citizens. It is also fairly well known, and generally not disputed, that women, and non-binary people are slaughtered at whim, abused, even beaten to death in the street by the murderous Morality Police in Iran.

They literally fund recognized terrorist groups as well, and no one not even Iran disputes this. And yes, many Islamic and Middle Eastern states state so as well.

Yet there's a weird collection of people running around, screaming about how Iran is apparently immensely innocent of... well, everything and anything ever. I can only presume that any actuon the Trumo cabal take, is just immediately presumed bad.

Which is of course absurd. Even a broken clock is correct, twice a day.

And if you're non-binary, or support non-binary people, or if you are a feminist, you'd be insane to behave as of the current Iranian regine is "good" or "innocent" in any way. There isn't even the tiniest comparison to how you are treated in the West, or the US compared to Iran. In Iran, basically, you're dead, or rotting in jail until you die.

That doesn't make this war correct. But there is a vast difference between speaking out against military aggression, and supporting Iran. These are two different things.

Iran, the state is terrible. The world will be a far better place if it is replaced with a new regime. And no, that doesn't make the war right.

See how easy that is?

It's called nuance. Not black and white, binary thinking.

Ah well. It only takes one person to appear as 1000s today, so grain of salt.

toyg•43m ago
There are dozens of equally "bad" regimes out there. The point is that invading them and/or killing a ton of their people is not the solution. Iraq: made things worse. Lybia: made things worse. Afghanistan: didn't make things any better. And this even before we discuss whether working inside a framework of agreed rules for international relations, instead of just doing whatever we feel like, is a good thing even for the "alpha nation".

Iran is obviously not innocent (nobody is), but their population is currently being hit for no particular reason beyond "Israeli vibes". That's not a broken clock being right, that's a broken clock telling the wrong time.

oncallthrow•24m ago
I’ve spent dozens of hours reading about the conflict on social media. I don’t think I’ve seen a single western account, outside of schizophrenic conspiracy theorist anons, saying that Iran is some paradise that can do no wrong.
ZeroGravitas•14m ago
Trump's crusade to save non-binary Iraninian feminists seems to be going quite badly. I'm not sure he planned it out that well. But it's the thought that counts.
clait•1h ago
How’s this HN related?
verisimi•58m ago
It was posted on hn. You (and I) are writing our comments on hn.
trolleski•52m ago
Tech is used for war.
0xbadcafebee•23m ago
You'd think the Pope's words would carry weight, seeing as the Secretary of War loves the Crusades, which the Catholic Church was the main driver of initially. But in reality, the Secretary's allegiance is to a tiny sect of Evangelicalism that is, to put it mildly, extremely hostile to most people on the planet.

My favorite part of the Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches (the Secretary's faith) isn't their desire to kill idolators, homosexuals, adulterers (oh the irony!), witches, and blasphemers. It's their figurehead, Douglas Wilson. After he writes a pamphlet and gives speeches about how Southern slavery was a good thing that made all races love each other than any other time in history, and denounces detractors as "abolitionist propagandizers", he says he's not a racist. After he says women shouldn't have the right to vote or serve in the military, he says he's not a misogynist. After he says he'd like sodomy to be made illegal again, he says he's not homophobic. He is the poster child for 1984's Doublethink. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. And this is what's informing the thought-leaders in the US administration.

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