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Open in hackernews

Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps

https://maps.apple.com/frame?center=33.723388%2C35.614698&span=1.983925%2C4.004193
136•thepasswordis•1h ago

Comments

thepasswordis•1h ago
This is amid an ongoing bombing campaign by Israel which is primarily targeting civilians.
oa335•1h ago
Any justification given by Apple?
formerly_proven•1h ago
They might genuinely not exist any more. The world's attention was heavily distracted by the campaign in Iran and the Hormuz strait while Israel never stopped doing their ...stuff... in Lebanon.
amarant•1h ago
And if they do, they probably don't want to be found
nativeit•1h ago
So did Munich stop existing after we leveled it in 1944?
moogly•1h ago
War crimes. War crimes are the words you're looking for.
jampekka•1h ago
This is sadly not that far fetched.

"The Israeli military has demolished entire villages as part of its invasion of south Lebanon, rigging homes with explosives and razing them to the ground in massive remote detonations."

"The demolitions came after Israel’s minister of defence, Israel Katz, called for the destruction of “all houses” in border villages “in accordance with the model used in Rafah and Beit Hanoun in Gaza” to stop threats to communities in northern Israel. The Israeli military destroyed 90% of homes in Rafah, in south Gaza."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/12/how-israeli-of...

colechristensen•1h ago
Apple does much of their own mapping but they also rely quite a bit on external data sources, whichever one of those they use probably dropped the data for one reason or another.
johndevor•1h ago
We all know why, but we're too scared to say.
throwaway132448•1h ago
It must be hard being so repressed.
bigyabai•1h ago
It's certainly not made easy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws
stri8ted•1h ago
Entire segments of the podcast sphere are making their money talking about these so-called unspeakable subjects. Why don't you share what you really think.
ryandrake•1h ago
This kind of innuendo adds nothing of value to the conversation. Either say what you intend to say, or just don't post. The coy "I know something but can't say it" is silly and just sounds like you have a persecution complex.
Pay08•1h ago
They gave up the pretense much easier than I thought they would.
walletdrainer•1h ago
We’re not allowed to criticise Israel because most jews are lunatics that consider such criticism an antisemitic attack on their person regardless of what actual ties they may have to the country.
oa335•9m ago
> most jews are lunatics

Ironically, this is actually antisemitic.

replooda•1m ago
Posts such as yours — "most jews..." — help push forward the narrative that anyone critical of them is antisemitic.
deadbolt•1h ago
Yeah and if you say it, your comment gets flagged just like this post has been.
johndevor•1h ago
And your taxes get audited!
Chance-Device•1h ago
This saddens me and I don’t understand why it is allowed to continue.

And I’m not just talking about Apple Maps.

dryarzeg•1h ago
This saddens me as well, because that's the type of thing that happens every day where I live, but...

> I don’t understand why it is allowed to continue.

The answer is even sadder. It's even worse. And it is as follows: because there's not enough people who are taking action, and from those taking action there's not enough people in power to change something significantly. At least that's how I see it. And... I can't even blame those who don't take action - because many people feel completely powerless, they feel like "what you can do to stop this war/other thing if you're just a regular human?"

Chance-Device•1h ago
This goes beyond direct action by individuals, it’s completely obvious what’s happening and it happens because the US political system has been captured.
Pay08•1h ago
Captured by whom?
Chance-Device•1h ago
This comes to mind: https://nypost.com/2025/03/19/us-news/benjamin-netanyahu-gif...
jampekka•1h ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_and_U.S._Fore...
cassianoleal•1h ago
The US political system is this. It has not been recently "captured". This is business as usual for them.
jampekka•1h ago
There's also a huge cost for taking action about this especially in the US. You can easily get thrown out of school, have your career destroyed or be deported.
dvfjsdhgfv•11m ago
This is mostly a US thing. Netanyahu and Putin are two war criminals according to International Court of Justice. Although Trump threatened the ICJ, this doesn't change that basic fact.
aduffy•1h ago
This reminds me a bit of the Gulf of America fiasco from last year where if you changed your location to outside the US it would go back to showing Gulf of Mexico.

I'm not sure why they would do this for US users unless the US government requested it.

bdangubic•1h ago
US government demanded it, not requested it
microtonal•1h ago
Associated Press was even banned from the White House for calling it the Gulf of Mexico: https://www.ap.org/the-definitive-source/announcements/ap-st...
nutjob2•1h ago
> I'm not sure why they would do this for US users unless the US government requested it.

Because the US govt. is petty and vindictive at the moment.

redox99•41m ago
Google maps has done this forever. A good chunk of countries have disputed territories, and never in human history there has been a "universal" map that everybody agrees on.
antihero•1h ago
What purpose would this serve in any way?

Could it be that their data source is tied to satellite data that is now being blacked out?

bertil•1h ago
Satellite source would require detailed editing, and there’s very little chance those are fully automated. The entire Middle-East is being blocked, but only Lebanon is being affected.

It could be that they have a provider in Lebanon that was bombed but I’ve never heard of a cartographer with local dependencies like that.

cozzyd•1h ago
Surely they could just... Leave what they used to have?
bertil•1h ago
Yeah, that’s the default option for detailed databases like that. Large deletion are either technical issues (and that should affect a lot more than one country) or deliberate edits.
jjtheblunt•1h ago
Apple maps used (last i knew) Scala to import externally sourced map datasets continuously, and those may have lost towns and villages in Lebanon.
aduffy•1h ago
I don't understand what using Scala has to do with anything here.
finnlab•1h ago
I don't know either but here is the answer from Wikipedia: "The main provider of map data is TomTom, but data is also supplied by Automotive Navigation Data, Getchee, Hexagon AB, IGN, Increment P, Intermap Technologies, LeadDog, MDA Information Systems, OpenStreetMap, and Waze."[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Maps

jjtheblunt•1h ago
yeah Scala doesn't matter, just thought that was interesting as a "factoid"
creddit•1h ago
Currently 50 points and is just a link to Apple Maps with an unverified claim.

EDIT: I'm at -2 for stating a fact.

bertil•1h ago
You can very easily verify the claim by following the link. Other than three major cities, there are no agglomeration listed in Lebanon. Other countries have detailed maps.
creddit•1h ago
Actually I can't because I've never seen if Apple ever had them in the first place.
bertil•1h ago
It sounds like a great opportunity to ask if people have used Apple Maps in Lebanon before.
creddit•1h ago
Is anyone stopping you from doing that? Do you need my permission? If so, granted. I think you should spend whatever effort you want to verify claims if you believe that would be of value.
bertil•54m ago
You are assuming I didn’t know before this news came out.
Legend2440•1h ago
Yeah true, how do we know these bridges and towns were there beforehand? Maybe Apple has never had good coverage in this area.

Just linking to a map doesn't tell us what was removed or when.

aduffy•1h ago
It is straightforward to visit any other online mapping service and see many villages labeled there.

Bing: https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=33.185932%7E35.321974&lvl=11.9&...

Google: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.1649913,35.2506666,11.55z

OSM: https://www.openstreetbrowser.org/#map=11/33.1554/35.2890

creddit•1h ago
Removed means they were there before which means comparison to other maps means nothing. It's possible Apple never had them in the first place. It's completely unverifiable with the link or your links.
aduffy•1h ago
OSM is a foundational data layer for GIS. If you're building a mapping service, you're almost certainly using OSM augmented by satellite imagery and other sources to find population zones that OSM has not found yet.

If you look at the Apple Maps satellite layer, you see thousands of structures spread across the area.

It is a reasonable assumption that these population centers were labeled and Apple (or one of its data partners) has withdrawn the labels.

walletdrainer•54m ago
Just check literally any Lebanese social media site?
boramalper•1h ago
> The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

You can open the link and see it for yourself; what other "verification" do you need?

creddit•1h ago
Do you know what the word "removed" means?
boramalper•34m ago
You’re being pedantic because you know it’s likely true.
quantummagic•1h ago
How did you verify that they previously existed on the Apple maps?

ps. your domain is misconfigured for your website, the www prefix is missing so only b....org works, but the link in your HN bio, doesn't.

daneel_w•1h ago
I believe OP is asking for a before/after of Apple Maps, because just seeing the map now isn't telling us whether Apple previously disclosed the villages and towns. I'm sure OP isn't thinking that the region is full of random roads out in the wilderness leading to nothing, which is the wrong conclusion the downvoters are probably leaping at.
creddit•1h ago
Correct
nairboon•1h ago
Why do you say unverified? You can activate the hybrid satellite view and look around. There are many towns and cities showing up on satellite view without any label. That's easily verifiable.
creddit•1h ago
Do you know what the word "removed" means?
morkalork•1h ago
How 1984 of them. "This village never existed, stop asking about it"
Jimmc414•1h ago
Willful blindness as a service
throwaway132448•1h ago
What’s the point in sharing these articles on HN, when the comment section shows they are clearly just used as an excuse for people to vocally confirm their own biases?
Bengalilol•1h ago
This is not an article, but a link to Apple Plans/Maps where you can observe all locations have been removed. As for now, it is hard to conclude anything but this looks like a bug (I know I am being optimistic).
throwaway132448•1h ago
Ok, so remove “these articles” and replace with “this” and my point still stands.
Bengalilol•1h ago
I concur
mikert89•1h ago
Israel is really out there just killing everyone in the middle east
ryandrake•1h ago
Dark humor but it almost seems like Israel is using Apple Maps as a checklist.
cozzyd•1h ago
Perhaps this is a humanitarian action, messing with Apple tankplay.
zeandcode•1h ago
This is insane
neya•1h ago
They did the same thing when there was a war between India and China a while ago. As brutal as it sounds, time and again Apple always loves to be on the side of whichever market is bigger. It's really that simple (business wise). Morally? Perhaps not.
politelemon•1h ago
There is no perhaps.
cr125rider•7m ago
How much do they rely on OSM these days? They were a TomTom shop, that was obviously horrible, then were OSM based. Is that still the case?
contingencies•1h ago
Apple: 1984 as a service. "We know walled gardens."

Quick: someone do the graphic, you can sell merch. Mail a freebie and a purchase link to every makerspace on the planet.

Some interesting background to current hostilities: "The UN Security Council has voted to wind up the near 50 year UNIFIL [peace keeping] mission after lobbying from Israel pushed the United States to veto its renewal. The mission will end in 2027." https://www.securitycouncilreport.org/whatsinblue/2025/08/un...

foxfired•1h ago
You can look up Maroun Al-Ras [0] and it's map coordinate [1]. If you search for the name, you find a garden of the same name, but not the village. The instagram reel that was posted earlier had more context [2].

From wikipedia:

> In October 2024, IDF forces operated in the village as part of its invasion of southern Lebanon. The Israeli flag was raised, after the victory.

Which Apple might use as a justification. There is a Israeli flag, so it must belong to them.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maroun_al-Ras

[1]: https://maps.apple.com/frame?center=33.107500%2C35.444722&sp...

[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47742363

AdmiralAsshat•18m ago
129 points in 2 hours, and this article mysteriously disappears from the front page of HN.

You who intentionally hide this information are complicit in genocide.

dvfjsdhgfv•14m ago
This is quite normal for politics-related news on HN. Many people flag them and they disappear from the FP. Whatever contentious issue you take, there always people who will dislike an even or how it's presented and will flag the submission.