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AI could be the end of the digital wave, not the next big thing

https://thenextwavefutures.wordpress.com/2026/04/07/ai-end-digital-wave-technology-innovation-perez/
96•surprisetalk•1h ago

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jmstfv•1h ago
tangentially related, but as someone who built multiple internet businesses -- mostly unsuccessful, some mildly successful -- I barely have any new ideas to work on.

I don't know if this is the effect of relying on AI too much in my day-to-day work or leading a more monotonous life as of late, but I'm sure I'm not the only one. Lots of ideas that I could have built before LLMs took over now seem trivial to build with Claude & friends.

Cilvic•50m ago
I can relate to this, in the past I felt like I could write down pages of projects to try if only I had time. Now my mind immediately goes towards "do I want to manage this long term after the initial spark".
DougN7•5m ago
That made me wonder, honestly, if AI can build it, could AI manage it too?
Zealotux•1h ago
I'm currently looking for sort of niche clothes for an event and it's the first time I had to give up on buying online because of the sheer amount of AI-generated pictures. Going to a physical store was just a much better experience, I can't recall the last time this happened, almost all sellers on Etsy are using AI for their pictures.
zemo•56m ago
full disclosure I work at Whatnot but that sort of thing is a large part of the appeal of Whatnot to me, that people are showing off the stuff live on stream and you can ask questions about it
jerf•52m ago
AI is in spitting distance of being able to do that too.
ori_b•17m ago
We're racing to build hell.
bearjaws•57m ago
I could totally see it, recently there has been a social club opened near me and it has 100+ people attending weekly. All younger, 20-30 year olds in their early career.

Separately, I have a local camera repair shop and my friend told me its 2 months backlog to get your film based camera worked on.

Ultimately if the deal we get online is infinite tracking, infinite scrolling and infinite enshittification, real life start to sound a whole lot better.

Forgeties79•56m ago
Going to the local movie rental shop with my kids is the highlight of my week. What a bizarre sentence to write in 2026 but it’s absolutely 1000% better than modern streaming (outside of my Plex setup).

I gladly pay the (modest/token) late fees to help keep them open at this point. If someone set up a local arcade man…I’d be in heaven ha

HWR_14•44m ago
> I gladly pay the (modest/token) late fees to help keep them open at this point

Keeping movies longer and paying late fees may be hurting them more than helping them. It's entirely possible that the late fees are underpriced to avoid scaring away customers. New customers going away disappointed they movie they want wasn't returned on time hurts them more than your late fees help.

Forgeties79•33m ago
Not keeping them on purpose, I’m just not sweating the fee because I’m happy to pay them.

Additionally, the odds that my kids are holding on to exactly what somebody else wants in that timeframe is very small. It’s a small shop within a larger co-op situation with a modest following and pretty substantial stock. I know for instance we’ve never had an issue of wanting something that was rented.

Has it happened? Maybe. But the fees I’ve paid probably net positive against that rare instance. They aren’t open half the week so I can’t return them once Monday passes for several days anyway. Owner certainly hasn’t expressed concern and has even waived the fee before because clearly it’s of little consequence.

jemmyw•56m ago
The question it raises is if this is the fake surge, the one we see, what is the real one we don't see? Renewable energy comes to mind. Robotics too but maybe that's too tied up with AI.
schnitzelstoat•52m ago
I think robotics will be the next surge for sure. But I don't think it's really tied up with the LLM stuff either and it could be decades away.

In the end, it'll probably require something like model-based RL like Yann LeCun talks about and that's totally different to the LLMs.

whizzter•45m ago
Space (Space-X showed that reusable rockets are feasible), Programmable health (Covid vaccine and remember that mRNA curing that dog?),etc.

Sadly, I think there's a risk we might also be heading towards a dark age with few advances since fundamental research has been squeezed away for being unprofitable or hobbled by a industrialized publishing/review-system for a while now and we've been coasting along on profitable applications rather than (expensive) breakthroughts in basics.

SideburnsOfDoom•25m ago
I firmly believe that Renewable energy, the Solar+battery+EV stack, not LLMs, really is the biggest technology transformation of our times. Renewable energy really is surging, just it's on a longer timeline and unlike LLMs, it doesn't benefit venture capitalists to hype it. In fact many existing sectors deliberately downplay it. But we are in the middle of it.

Robotics? lights-out operations in automated factories are already a thing, so I don't know if they're the "next thing".

mRNA vaccines? Sure, they're a huge medical advance. With great potential, in that area. But it's just an area.

Space? Maybe, if we get past LEO, find something useful to do there, and don't succumb to Kessler syndrome.

schnitzelstoat•53m ago
The theory doesn't seem to make much sense to me - like why can't there be simultaneous technological revolutions? And why would they last an arbitrary 50-60 years?

> People seem to hate Google’s inserting of AI tools into its search results, and hate even more that it is all but impossible to turn it off.

That could do with a solid citation tbh. The anti-AI people are really vocal on social media but personally I like having the AI results given how awful navigating the modern internet has become with all the cookie banners and anti-Ad Blocker popups etc.

Honestly, the LLMs seem like the most transformative technology we've had since the release of the iPhone.

parrellel•25m ago
I mean when I needed to look up something I used to just google it.

Now, with the advent of LLMs I've had to pull out my old textbooks from storage.

tom_•24m ago
50-60 years is far from arbitrary: it's very roughly two generations (plus a bit of extra time, to ensure the process takes). 50-60 years gives enough time for a generation to grow up and reach adulthood who have never known anything other than the revolutionary state.

Not unrelated: https://blog.gardeviance.org/2015/03/on-pioneers-settlers-to...

dasil003•51m ago
It seems really premature to talk about AI being the end of anything. What’s at an end stage is adoption of smart phones and monetizing human attention. That’s been the fuel that powered the last quarter century of tech gains, and while still huge in absolute terms it has been running out of steam as a growth engine and facing cultural pushback (eg. Social media lawsuits) for a while.

AI so far has really only shown massive utility for programming. It has broad potential across almost all knowledge work, but it’s unclear how much of that can be fulfilled in practice. There are huge technical, UX and social hurdles. Integrating middle brow chatbots everywhere is not the end game.

neals•50m ago
I had to code something on a plane today. It used to be that you couldn't get you packages or check stackoverflow. But now, I'm useless. My mind has turned to pudding. I cannot remember basic boilerplate stuff. Crazy how fast that goes.
embedding-shape•48m ago
Really? How long you've been a developer? I've been almost exclusively doing "agent coding" for the last year + some months, been a professional developer for a decade or something. Tried just now to write some random JavaScript, C#, Java, Rust and Clojure "manually" and seems my muscle memory works just as well as two years ago.

I'm wondering if this is something that hits new developers faster than more experienced ones?

mathgeek•40m ago
Probably depends on the individual. Senior developer here and I've always offloaded boilerplate and other "easy to google" things to search engines and now AI. Just how my brain and memory work. Anything I haven't used recently isn't worth keeping (in my subconscious mind's opinion anyway).
ConceptJunkie•23m ago
Yeah, having to look up the "basic boilerplate" stuff is not worse for me after starting to use AI than it was beforehand.
farresito•40m ago
> I'm wondering if this is something that hits new developers faster than more experienced ones?

Almost certainly, at least according to Ebbinghaus' forgetting curve.

intended•37m ago
It a side effect of using AI.

People using AI for tasks (essay writing in the MIT study linked below) showed lower ownership, brain connectivity, and ability to quote their work accurately.

> https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.08872

There was a MSFT and Carnegie Mellon study that saw a link between AI use, confidence in ones skills, confidence in AI, and critical thinking. The takeaway for me is that people are getting into “AI take the wheel” scenarios when using GenAI and not thinking about the task. This affects people novices more than experts.

If you managed to do critical thinking, and had relegated sufficient code to muscle memory, perhaps you aren’t as impacted.

Zigurd•23m ago
It's probably too much inside baseball to merit a study, but I'm curious if the results would change for part-time coders. When I'm not coding, I'm writing patents, doing technical competitive analysis, team building, etc.

My theory is that if you're not full-time coding, it's hard harder to remember the boiler plate and obligatory code entailed by different SDKs for different modules. That's where the documentation reading time goes, and what slows down debugging. That's where agent assisted coding helps me the most.

eru•21m ago
> [...] and ability to quote their work accurately.

I guess that's an advantage? People shouldn't have to burden their memory with boilerplate and CRUD code.

order-matters•17m ago
i think your environment is a big role. with Ai you can kind of code first, understand second. without AI if you dont fully understand something then you havent finished coding it, and the task is not complete. if the deadline is too aggressive you push back and ask for more time. with AI, that becomes harder to do. you move on to the next thing before you are able to take the time to understand what it has done.

i dont think it is entirely a case of voluntary outsourcing of critical thinking. I think it's a problem of 1) total time devoted to the task decreasing, and 2) it's like trying to teach yourself puzzle solving skills when the puzzles are all solved for you quickly. You can stare at the answer and try to think about how you would have arrived at it, and maybe you convince yourself of it, but it should be relatively common sense that the learning value of a puzzle becomes obsolete if you are given the answer.

askonomm•30m ago
Same for me. Been fully agentic for half a year or so, still remember the myriad of programming languages and things just as well if there's no AI present at all. Hard to shake 15 years of experience that quick, unless maybe that experience never fully cemented?

Maybe the difference between actually knowing stuff vs surface level? I know a lot of devs just know how to glue stuff together, not really how to make anything, so I'd imagine those devs lose their skills much faster.

eru•23m ago
I can tell you that I can still code Python and Haskell just fine (I did those in vim without bothering to set up any language assistance), but Rust I only ever did with AI and IDE and compiler assistance.
juvoly•7m ago
Experience isn't the problem. I have 20+ years of C++ development, built commercial software in Java, Rust, Python, played with assembly, Erlang, Prolog, Basic.

Played with these coding agents for the last couple weeks and instantly noticed the brainrot when I was staring at an empty vim screen trying to type a skeleton helloworld in C.

Luckily the right idioms came back after couple of hours, but the experience gave me a big scare.

dukky•39m ago
I thought this comment was going the opposite way - previously no internet/googling but now you can run a local model and figure things out without the need for internet at all
wanderingstan•21m ago
Mine as well. 2 years ago my mind was blown that I could code in a language I didn’t know (scala) while on a log train ride with no internet (Amtrak) using a local model on a laptop. Couldn’t believe it.
pablogiuffrida•26m ago
probably a junior/semi sr developer?
himata4113•23m ago
I haven't written complex code for so long I forgot how I used to type && on my keyboard. Wild times.
jasonlotito•21m ago
Others have addressed other aspects of this, but I want to address this:

> I cannot remember basic boilerplate stuff.

I don't know exactly what you mean by boilerplate stuff, but honestly, that's stuff we should have automated away prior to AI. We should not be writing boilerplate.

I'd highly encourage you to take the time to automate this stuff away. Not even with AI, but with scripts you can run to automate boilerplate generation. (Assuming you can't move it to a library/framework).

bdangubic•11m ago
I read the "boilerplate" in that comment as "basic" meaning "I don't know how to center a div" or "I do not know how to remove duplicates from a collection"
fendy3002•5m ago
Well both of them are easily retrieved from web search, it's not a problem if you forget one or two. I'll probably need some refreshment if I want to implement bubble sort again.
DrewADesign•7m ago
Jeez, I never remembered boilerplate stuff anyway. Losing grasp of your commonly used, slightly more involved code idioms in your key languages would probably be where I’d draw the ‘be concerned’ line. Like if I get into a car after years of only using public transit, I wouldn’t be too worried if I couldn’t immediately use a standard transmission smoothly. If I no longer could intuitively interact with urban traffic or merge onto a highway, I’d be a lot more concerned.
dleslie•16m ago
All skill degrade with disuse. For example, here in Canada we have observed a literacy and numeracy skills curve that peaks with post-secondary education and declines with retirement.[0]

Use it or lose it, as it were.

0: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/241210/dq241...

dwedge•12m ago
Will you do anything differently knowing this? Does the risk of LLMs being unaffordable to you in the near future make you wary about losing the skills?
XCSme•12m ago
I guess writing code is now like creating punch-cards for old computers. Or even more recently, as writing ASM instead of using a higher level language like C. Now we simply write our "code" in a higher language, natural language, and the LLM is the compiler.
TheRoque•8m ago
I cringe every time I read this "punch card" narrative. We are not at this stage at all. You are comparing deterministic stuff and LLMs which are not deterministic and may or may not give you what you want. In fact I personally barely use autonomous Agents in my brownfield codebase because they generate so much unmaintainable slop.
bigfishrunning•8m ago
Except that compiler is a non-deterministic pull of a slot-machine handle. No thanks, I'll keep my programming skills; COBOL programmers command a huge salary in 2026, soon all competent programmers will.
fendy3002•8m ago
In my 7th years of professionally programming node, not even once I remember the express or html boilerplate, neither is the router definition or middleware. Yet I can code normally provided there's internet accessible. It's simply not worth remembering, logic and architecture worth more IMO
awongh•48m ago
I think it's clear to me that AI will be both things:

1) as in the article it's a contraction of work- industrialization getting rid of hand-made work or the contraction of all things horse-related when the internal combustion engine came around

but- it will also be

2) new technologies and ideas enabled by a completely new set of capabilities

The real question is if the economic boost from the latter outpaces the losses of the former. History says these transitions aren't easy on society.

But also, the AI pessimism is hard to understand in this context- do people really believe no novel things will be unlocked with this tech? That it's all about cost-cutting?

hnthrow0287345•42m ago
>That it's all about cost-cutting?

Cost cutting has less uncertainty than making something new, so they do that first. If something else comes along, then great.

This is also why the people should make the transition as difficult as possible for companies doing layoffs when the companies are paying proportionally very little in taxes compared to the people they are laying off.

damnesian•39m ago
Hard to understand, when essential human nature is so predictable? Sure, we will do novel things with it. But society in the main will use to it exploit labor. same as it ever was.
dodu_•35m ago
> do people really believe no novel things will be unlocked with this tech?

Yes. It's a mostly shitty but very fast and relatively inexpensive replacement for things that already exist.

Give your best example of something that is novel, ie isn't just replacing existing processes at scale.

It's been 3 and a half years now since the initial hype wave. Maybe I genuinely missed the novel trillion dollar use case that isn't just labor disruption.

vjvjvjvjghv•26m ago
"Yes. It's a mostly shitty but very fast and relatively inexpensive replacement for things that already exist."

Wouldn't that apply to most technological advances? Cars, computers, cell phones.

jenniferhooley•20m ago
I think that most people are pretty short-sighted about the utility cases right now (which is understandable given the negative feelings about a lot of what's currently going on).

There are a lot of really useful things that were impossible before. But none of these use cases are "easy," and they all take years of engineering to implement. So, all we see right now are trashy, vibe-code style "startups" rather than the actual useful stuff that will come over the years from experienced architects and engineers who can properly utilize this technology to build real products.

I'm someone who feels very frustrated with most of the chatter around AI - especially the CEOs desperate to devalue human labor and replace it - but I am personally building something utilizing AI that would have been impossible without it. But yeah, it's no walk in the park, and I've been working on it for three years and will likely be working on it for another year before it's remotely ready for the public.

When I started, the inference was too slow, the costs were too high, and the thinking-power was too poor to actually pull it off. I just hypothesized that it would all be ready by the time I launch the product. Which it finally is, as of a few months ago.

girvo•15m ago
It’s pretty decent for natural language -> query language tasks

But also you don’t need SOTA frontier models for that!

butlike•18m ago
So now the ancillary question from your example is: "Is hand-spun cotton better than industrialized polyester?"
TeMPOraL•14m ago
Define better. Fast fashion sucks, but hand-spun cotton won't give you Kevlar or modern wind-resistant clothing or fireproof materials for your furniture or... <insert half thousand different things adjacent to modern textile production>.

It's always win some, lose some with the economy, but technology itself opens previously impossible capabilities.

techteach00•41m ago
I sort of agree with the premise of the article. I ask myself, did more non-technical people pick up AI chat bots when they were invented than picked up personal computers in the late 70s/early 80's? I think probably. From my conversations with others.
Forgeties79•37m ago
Part of this is because we aren’t paying the actual cost of these chatbots. If ChatGPT wasn’t essentially free for casual users then we’d definitely see a much smaller/slower adoption rate. I wonder if a single person using them, even paying for tokens, isn’t substantially subsidized. Probably not but I’m speculating.

If 3D printers could’ve given usage away for years directly in our homes then I bet we would’ve seen wider adoption there too.

zozbot234•19m ago
Chat bots can run on your local hardware these days, even mobile phone hardware. That's effectively free.
aswegs8•38m ago
Could
lkm0•37m ago
These economic frameworks sure look like pareidolia to me
tomhillson•37m ago
if this could last till a point where AI have actual automation ability, it's not a tool for humans anymore. it could have a identity and start to evolve literally. i don't understand why some people consider AI as tech revolution. maybe i'm into sf, but AI can be something other than just a tool.
cyclopeanutopia•23m ago
Surprising number of people here and in tech general lack any imagination.
a-dub•35m ago
this perez model thing completely misses the communications revolutions of the telegraph, radio and television not to mention demonopolization of bell.

> Then came AI, revealing new dynamics. ChatGPT’s breakthrough didn’t come from a garage startup but from OpenAI,

i thought the transformer and large language models came from google research.

> There’s also social pushback—in the UK the campaigns against big ringroad schemes started in the late 1960s and early 1970s. And perhaps we’re seeing some of that about AI. The U.S. map of local pushback against data centres from Data Center Watch covers the whole of the country, in red states and blue. People seem to hate Google’s inserting of AI tools into its search results, and hate even more that it is all but impossible to turn it off.

the us had the highway revolts. in most cities where the revolts succeeded it is widely heralded today as a success.

the data center hate is interesting. i think many people are just learning what data centers are. but that said, they've come to represent something different in recent years. previously they were part of the infrastructure that made industry hum, now public messaging from tech leaders and academics is along the lines of "this is how your livelihood is going to be replaced" while the institutions that are supposed to provide any sort of backstop are being dismantled or slashed to pieces by crazypants trumpist politics. i think focusing the energy on the tangible like mundane buildings is interesting, but the hate makes a lot of sense.

addressing the core thesis, i'd argue that ai is not the next step in the 70s digital technological wave (especially considering the future of ai compute is probably hybrid digital-analog systems), but rather is something fundamentally new that also changes how technology interacts with society and how economics itself will function.

previous systems helped, these systems can do. that's a fundamental change and one that may not be compatible with our existing economic systems of social sorting and mobility. the big question in my mind is: if it succeeds, will we desperately try to hold onto the old system (which essentially would be a disaster that freezes everyone in place and creates a permanent underclass) or will we evolve to a new, yet to be defined, system? and if so, how will the transition look?

barrkel•30m ago
The lack of robotics mention somewhat undermines this article.

I don't think it's intrinsically wrong, we are in a late stage of a transformation. Software is eating the world and AI is (so far) most profitably an automation of software.

There is plenty of money to be made along the way. I don't really buy the article's seeming confusion about where the money is going to come from. Anthropic is making billions and signing up prodigious amounts of recurring revenue every month.

nerptastic•21m ago
Anthropic today, who next week? If locally run models ever get to the point where they can reliably solve... 85% of what the frontier cloud models can do, I think many would be willing to accept slightly less problem solving ability and just run the thing locally.

All hypothetical, but if compute + AI research continues at pace, in 5 years we should see extremely good local models.

surgical_fire•6m ago
As far as I know Anthropic still bleeds money, as Open AI also does.

They will keep bleeding money by the way.

josefritzishere•25m ago
It could also be a huge bubble like everyone seems to agree about.
LunicLynx•24m ago
And with robots, this also applies to the physical world.
alexwebb2•22m ago
I view this post as primarily pattern-matching and storytelling. But I think there’s a buried truth there, and that they were nibbling at the edges of it when they started talking about the overlapping stages.

There are some very interesting information network theories that present information growth as a continually evolving and expanding graph, something like a virus inherent to the universe’s structure, as a natural counterpoint to entropy. And in that view, atomic bonds and cells and towns and railroads and network connections and model weights are all the same sort of thing, the same phenomenon, manifesting in different substrates at different levels of the shared graph.

To me, that’s a much better and deeper explanation that connects the dots, and offers more predictive power about what’s next.

Highly recommend the book Why Information Grows to anyone whose interest is piqued by this.

ETH_start•13m ago
Humanity has industrialized the production of intelligence. We're nowhere near the end of what this leads to.
justonepost2•11m ago
it be the end of the paradigm myth, and eventually, the Anthropocene

it be the beginning of vast and infinite potentia spreading out beyond us

Invictus0•10m ago
ItS thE eND of ThE InTeRwEbS
himata4113•8m ago
Every time I see these I am thinking to myself: Is microsoft copilot a problem of implementation or the capability of the models?

I have ZERO doubt that if you put people that haven't used a computer in front of one and you had copilot everywhere and I mean not the way it is now instead you're presented with a chatbox in the middle of the screen and you just ask the computer what you want I am 99.99% sure that everyone would prefer to use that chatbox rather than trying to figure out how to use a computer which is why I am not quick to discredit "microslop", they're most likely pivoting windows to how it will look like in the future.

Obviously, the strongest argument here is that it should have been an entirely different product such as "Windows AI" where the entire system is designed around it. But if you look at their current implementation it's more of a copilot which is just there, letting you know it exists. Obviously not all of these features were thought through such as recall, that should have been dead and burried since it doesn't offer that much real value a magical box that takes in english sentences and does roughly what you want.

At the end of the day it's a question if AI will/is doing more harm than good. AI has really only existed in this form for a little more than 3 years and really started shining since the advent of Opus 4.5. We went from having models producing more security vulnerabilities than one can count to fixing obscure human made ones and the capabilities will keep increasing (if anthropic is to be believed). We will enter an era where it will have 95%+ accuracy in doing what a typical computer user would want from AI and there's really nothing anyone can do to stop it.

So my opinion is that AI will be the next big thing and it might spread way beyond what we can even imagine.

I think that we will have things similar to non technical people that just talk on the phone with an AI agent to get a website done, register a domain and have a website done within a 1 hour phone call all for pennies while the AI has access to their financials, mail and other things. All of that is relatively possible today with the simple caviat of security and I do believe we have enough smart people in the world that can figure out how to make AI better at rejecting social engineering than 99% of humans.

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3•Brajeshwar•28m ago•1 comments

Rental Harmony

https://cynablog.substack.com/p/rental-harmony
2•surprisetalk•29m ago•0 comments

Thick Coins by Theodore Nichols

https://thick-coins.net/
2•surprisetalk•29m ago•0 comments

The Utopia of the Family Computer

https://mudmapmagazine.com/the-utopia-of-the-family-computer/
2•surprisetalk•29m ago•0 comments

The Long-Term Effects of Grade Inflation

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CcS_caQP701I92FeB6ZYlT1C7hjnFEWo/view
1•surprisetalk•29m ago•0 comments