Agreed, call it future shock or the Singularity or just overall outrage fatigue, people just aren't reacting to these kinds of things at a level commensurate with their risk or danger.

The idiocy out of the Whitehouse is an intentional strategy to flood the zone with crap that sucks all the air out of the room. They have intentionally broken the ability of the public to become informed through a number of means: attention atrophy, lowest-common-denominator mudslinging, and massive, manufactured, stupid global crises. People have become deaf and desensitized.

The fact that humanity sent people back to the moon barely even registered. Crazy times.

> I think such indifference or rather apathy/torpor is a result of people becoming tired of constant stream of crises (either imaginary or real) that we're being flooded by.

Indeed.

Videotapes from petrol station showing what hit the Pentagon on 9/11 have been seized and never released. All the public got are three video frames on which you see jack shit.

A building collapsed although he'd been hit by exactly nothing: that's one for the ages too.

It's established Mossad agents were seen celebrating when the first plane hit the tower: not that Israel was behind it... But they had the intel it was going to happen (and they warned the US about it, which did nothing [on purpose?]).

In 1973 there was an actual oil shock, back when countries like Denmark weren't generating 95%+ of their energy demand from renewable source and dependence on oil was an actual thing.

I could give the link to the official US Congress mandated report (under Biden btw) on Covid and the official conclusions: non-zootropic characteristics, the expert whom everybody listened to to determine it wasn't a lab leak was getting funding to gain-of-function research on bat viruses (and has now been debarred and prevented, for life, from ever getting funding from the US), etc. And BTW an investigative journalist exposed that "expert" right from the beginning and yet all the media, worldwide, sang the same synchronized tune to the public.

Basically Covid-19 / SaRS-COV-2 was the biggest lie that ever happened in history and I deeply regret having injected this fake vaccine (which btw prompted a change of the official definition of what a vaccine is in the dictionaries) into my left arm.

I mean: we've literally seen much stranger shit than a spacecraft circling the moon and a war with islamist terrorists.

> people becoming tired of constant stream of crises

They aren't tired, they're distracted. X/TikTok/et. al. are all fire and motion mechanisms.

The precipitous drop in fertility even in low income countries. The rise in populism and fear.

It's the phones, humans are being DDoSd. We need government intervention against many aspects of modern technology.

The profit motive works when it comes to reducing manufacturing costs and passing some of that on to consumers through the beauty of competition. It doesn't work so great when it's X training a transformer model to maximize the amount of time you spend doom scrolling so they can feed you gambling advertisements.

Its the tech worlds equivalent to eating X causes cancer.

HN is a bit of a bubble in that people here tend to be quite privacy focused and would be horrified at the prospect of their details being leaked.

For a lot of normal people that's not the case and as long as they don't get someone actually stealing their identity etc. they aren't really concerned about these kind of things

Frustratingly, I have my foot in both worlds to a degree. I'm interested enough in tech to pay attention and often lurk the tech bubble that is HN and hear about the raging dumpster fires from the folks who live and work in that domain. But I exist in a mostly non-tech world IRL where this exists among the other burning dumpster fires to the point that I can't care about another data hack, and i hate that I don't have the bandwidth to care. To a more acute degree, my mother was nearly wiped of half her life savings by "hackers"/fraudsters posing as employees of her bank. Being "hacked" is a part of life now, and outrage fatigue is real.

> a giant pedophile ring has been exposed that no one in power seems interested in doing anything about

But that's not true. The European Union and many other countries are taking extreme measures to ensure that what happened in the United States never happens with them and they are introducing a bunch of different measures to strengthen control over society, the media sphere, and other measures to ensure that no pedophile rings could be exposed.

As fatiguing as legal breach notices are to lay people, it's equally frustrating as a dev because security is not a distinguishing feature we can advertise in our product so we can't prioritize it at all. Let the lawyers figure it out later seems to be best practice now.

And of course vuln finding is now automated so even if we do a good job locking it down this morning, nothing will not keep out the next wave tonight.

Plus, our current political atmosphere encourages digital chaos, for example gutting CISA.

> a giant pedophile ring has been exposed that no one in power seems interested in doing anything about

This was one of the things Trump got 2024 elected on - many Republican voters were extremely keen on this being addressed. I'm glad Trump's fumbled it now so the Democrats are interested in addressing it, though for the wrong reasons.

The issue is also one of agency: the public has absolutely no agency in this. There is nothing an ordinary member of the public can do to avoid having their data exposed, there is nothing they can do to cause corporations to have more robust security models nor to cause actual consequences for all the executives that chose profit over security at every possible decision point.

To the public this becomes like the risk of being hit by lightning or being in a car accident, just background noise we avoid thinking about as much as possible. It is just the cost of living in this economy.

M&A first, kinetic NDA follows. "If you look around the table and can't tell who the sucker is, it's you."