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Show HN: Thesaner.com – a troll-proof platform for harder discussions

1•abhishek0922•3h ago
I am trying to build a platform for complex discussions, given the inadequacy of existing social media for this purpose. The core idea is to enforce the structure that characterizes the development of an argument right at the level of the platform and discard everything else. The result is a place that is troll-proof by design and optimized for having complex discussions. You can read more about it at https://www.thesaner.com/faq and try out its behavior at https://www.thesaner.com/simulator. The website is functional, so you can also choose to sign up for it.

The website remains very much a work in progress and I welcome all feedback. If you have any doubts, please ask about it.

PS: The website only supports discussions on science, policy, and technology at the moment. I am working on making it general-purpose as soon as possible.

Comments

Arthur00•3h ago
‘Troll-proof by design’ is a very bold claim. Anyone who has spent time managing online communities or game servers knows that trolls are incredibly adaptable. If you force a strict logical structure, won't you just end up with 'bureaucratic trolls'—people who format bad-faith arguments or sealioning perfectly within your system's rules? How does the platform differentiate between a well-formatted bad-faith argument and a genuine complex discussion?
abhishek0922•3h ago
This is a very important question. I think there is an answer in the incentives of the platform but will have to bear out in practice. The platform incentivizes the development of an argument. Coming up with an argument is already a difficult exercise because of the structural demands of consistency and plausibility inherent in it (something in stark contrast to the ease of faking a fact). Incentivizing an elaborative structure makes it much harder by preventing inferential sleights of hand (bad-faith use) by forcing those inferences to be explicit and open to scrutiny. The most obvious cases should be detectable with LLMs.

Another important defense is that this platform is going to be built around open discussion. I am not trying to prevent being wrong, just to provide a place on average can correct them, even if the participants are not always operating in good-faith.

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