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Why Zip drives dominated the 90s, then vanished almost overnight

https://www.xda-developers.com/zip-drives-dominated-90s-vanished-almost-overnight/
27•naves•1h ago

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iamtedd•1h ago
In all these nostalgic retrospectives, I never read how the zip drive can achieve 100x or more capacity than the floppy. What is the engineering feat that allowed this? There's one paragraph in Wikipedia that says the heads fly across the disk like a hard drive. OK, how did they manage that while the disk isn't sealed? Is that all it took?

Similarly, articles just gloss right over the "click of death" without any technical explanation of what goes wrong. Why were these drives and/or media so prone to failure?

There's nothing new in this article.

masklinn•46m ago
> I never read how the zip drive can achieve 100x or more capacity than the floppy. What is the engineering feat that allowed this?

Improvement in production processes and materials (e.g. magnetic coatings) allowing smaller tracks and smaller more precisely positioned heads. The 3 1/2 floppy dates back to 1983, the high-density 1.44MB to 1986, the Zip drive was released in 1994.

A “super high density” 20 MB floppy had already been attempted in 1990, and the LS-120, which had the exact same dimensions as a 3.5” floppy (and could read those), launched in 1996, so it was not really exceptional at 6 doubling in 8 years from the 1.44MB floppy.

Also it was expensive, part of that was the lower scale and lack of competition but the increased production requirements were also a factor, Zip drives and media had tighter tolerances.

The click of death was because when the head got misaligned the drive would return it to the home position, if part of the drive had failed the head would never realign so the drive would keep trying, producing a characteristic clicking sound. HDDs can develop the same, but it’s less common than it was on Zip drives. The tighter tolerance were most likely a factor, it was more likely for a zip to age out of tolerance and develop terminal misalignment.

aggakake•44m ago
IIRC there's some kind of optical tracking going on.
wzdd•26m ago
Zip disks were much less floppy than floppies. They felt more similar to a single magnetic hard disk platen. Presumably the stiffness was what enabled the head to float above the medium, while also allowing tighter read/write timing because it wasn't subject to such variation. Having a single manufacturer of the disks (at least initially) probably also helped.
gugagore•6m ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floptical

A related technology with a name that already answers your question.

bananaflag•58m ago
There was also the issue that one would also need a reader. Why would I buy a zip reader if no one else has one (network effect)? (Btw I never saw in my life a zip reader or a zip disk.)

Whereas with USB sticks all one needed was a USB port. I immediately wanted a stick.

ben_w•42m ago
Before the first iMac arrived with only USB ports and thereby forced peripheral makers to support USB, USB just wasn't all that common even in the Windows world: why would a 1997 manufacturer bother with USB when all the machines already had all the other ports we here in 2026 find subsumed into USB?

But only a few years later, as you say, USB thumb drives were making Zip drives irrelevant.

acdha•20m ago
USB was slooooooow in comparison to SCSI or later FireWire, though, so that took a hardware generations to really catch on.

I think the network effect was more a question of who had tons of data: for example, all of the graphic design shops had Zip or Jazz drives because they needed to schlep client deliverables around so you could just assume they had the hardware. Most people weren’t generating that much data before digital cameras became common.

sublinear•6m ago
Was it really the iMac that did it? I don't think I remember anyone saying that until recent years. I always thought USB 2.0 was just too good to ignore and addressed all the pain points manufacturers had with USB 1.1 being too slow.

What I recall being sold for Mac were FireWire peripherals back in the late 90s and most of the 2000s.

acranox•33m ago
Most of us were using Zip drives to backup our files and then put the disks on shelf. There was no cloud backup, and 100MB was often enough for all your personal files.
masklinn•18m ago
It was also used by professional who needed to transfer large (for the times) amounts of data but not so much or without the technical background that high density tapes or routinely swapping hard drives was sensible (or possible): images, document scans, …
dd82•16m ago
this. IIRC the internal drive plus two disks being significantly cheaper than an external hard drive of similar capacity
ndgold•55m ago
I loved my zip drive it was loud but I loved that it had my stuff on it and there was no need to compromise on what I would keep or trash, which itself was part of the attachment to this new thing
perbu•52m ago
We had a SCSI zip-drive at our uni and it was a brilliant way to drag megabytes of content home. Even though I had amazing internet (2Mbit shared by 100+ ppl), the zip drive would still be a good way of getting stuff home.

Then I got to experience the click of death and the internet connection was bumped to 100Mbit and I didn't need to replace my zip drive.

inatreecrown2•51m ago
I used a Zip drive with an Akai MPC 2000 over SCSI to store all my songs and sounds. Loved it! Never had a problem with it, and I didn't exactly look after it well. The MPC itself still had the builtin floppy drive, and the zip just blew the floppy away in speed and capacity.
ndr42•35m ago
Interesting that in that time all kind of external storage solutions emerged: I used Zip drives, the follow-up "Jaz drive" (1GB) and Syquest disks (270 MB?). The latter two chained together with thick SCSI cables to a PowerMac 7200.

Edit: Today I use just 2.5" SSDs in the same way. There's a small sata to usb-c adapter where I plug them in without any further enclosure.

konart•28m ago
I'm sure this is the second time I even read about them.

I don't even think I've seen a single on here in Russia in the 90s.

5.25 in my fathers company? Sure. 3.5 everywhere else? Da. CDs at some point.

Hell, even minidisc was there (also almost non-existent, I think I know only two people who actually owned a minidisc player).

No sing of Zip.

inglor_cz•20m ago
ZIP drives were too expensive for freshly post-Communist Czechia. A FDD would cost about USD 40-50, much more affordable than the ZIP drive with its 200 USD price tag. And the media were much cheaper, especially if you bought no-name diskettes for, say, USD 2-3. This way, you could discard a bad medium without feeling the economic pinch too much. Discarding a 20 USD ZIP medium would be quite painful.

I think I only saw two computers with ZIP drives in the wild, so to say. Which created its own anti-network effects: if there is no expectation of the other party having a compatible drive, you will either have to do with floppies, or maybe carry an external HDD with you, but you won't use an exotic and expensive format. Pretty much the only plausible use was backup.

I still believe that with a more aggressive price policy, ZIPs could have conquered a lot of territory in the 1990s. But 200/20 USD was just too much money to spend. Not just in the post-Soviet bloc, but almost everywhere in Asia, too. Big markets lost because of the cost, and therefore a chance to entrench the standard worldwide.

maximinus_thrax•12m ago
> I don't even think I've seen a single on here in Russia in the 90s.

I'm not surprised, considering they were expensive. That doesn't mean they weren't popular in the west.

konart•9m ago
CDs where not cheap either, mind you. Yet CDs replaced cassettes rather quickly.
brycewray•16m ago
Drives like these and the Syquest drives were essential for desktop publishing well into the early 2000s. I sent many such drives to various printing facilities --- or, sometimes (and, here, I really date myself) separate PostScript bureaus --- to obtain high-res, color-separated film for four-color commercial printing, either by local printers or magazines who would run ads for my employers of the time.
comrade1234•9m ago
"The problem was estimated by Iomega to affect around 0.5% of Zip drives,..."

I guess I was just majorly unlucky. clickclickclickclick*...

ramses0•9m ago
The other "has been" technology of the era was the "LS-120 SuperDisk". It was backwards compatible with standard 1.44MB 3.5" disks but you could buy special disks with 120MB capacity, and you didn't need to take up two slots on your front bays for both floppy and zip (and could write back to standard 1.44MB disks when taking some files to campus or sharing with "normal" computers). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperDisk

...in retrospect as the article states: swept away by CD-rw and USB sticks, but a great technology! There really was a critical gap in "I need to back up _all_ my files or coursework for the semester" or "Wouldn't it be great to be able to fit TEN games on a floppy instead of ONE game on ten floppies?"

It really was a different era!

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